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I believe that's ZJ914, the first of the Tranche 1s painted for the aggressor role. Which is evidently not now going ahead.

Some irony to a soon to be scrapped aircraft being painted up like this. Literally papering over the gaps with the Union Flag...

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(Forces News) 28th May 2021
RAF Coningsby has revealed a newly-decorated Typhoon donning the Union Flag – the first of its kind to be painted all around the aircraft. The Typhoon performed a display over the RAF base, but it was just a taste of what’s to come as it has been signed up for around 30 air shows around the world this yea
Paint or vinyl wrap?

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I love the union jack but think it would go better with the standard Grey scheme :thumbup:

Obviously this was the best scheme 8-)

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I love this for no other reason than it triggered the Scottish separatist twats on Twatter.

...the jet should be flown over their houses, every fucking day.

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Cooper wrote:I love this for no other reason than it triggered the Scottish separatist twats on Twatter.

...the jet should be flown over their houses, every fucking day.
I await it flying over my house if it visits Lossie. Fair few houses it could do repeated low passes over to piss folk off :lol:

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https://armadainternational.com/2021/06 ... sive-fire/


The Royal Air Force is once again embracing the air defence suppression mission courtesy of two fledgling capabilities expected to enter service this decade.

The good news is that the RAF will soon be back in the air defence suppression game, thanks to two new capabilities it is expected to receive in the future. The first is an electronic attack function to augment the new BAE Systems/Leonardo ECRS Mk.2 X-band (8.5GHz to 10.68GHz) fire control radar destined to equip the Tranche-3 variants of the RAF’s Eurofighter Typhoon FGR.4 combat aircraft. The second is the MBDA Select Precision Effects At Range Capability-Electronic Warfare (SPEAR-EW) loitering electronic attack system. Both effectively perform a similar function to ALARM but do so electronically.

The advent of both will not only resurrect RAF SEAD capabilities, but improve them immeasurably from the days of ALARM for the wars of tomorrow. Harnessing electronic effects to substitute kinetic effects when possible enhances precision, reduces ordnance expenditure and lowers the risk of collateral damage. It also improves the ability of the RAF to manoeuvre in the spectrum to achieve electromagnetic superiority and supremacy, something indispensable to success in all domains of warfare.

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SPEAR-EW on F35 will be exceptional.

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Tinman wrote:SPEAR-EW on F35 will be exceptional.
As will Meteor on F-35 despite those that argue against it.

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Surely the UK needs Meteor on the F-35 as part of the Carrier Strike Groups layered air defence? If it doesn't carry it it will be like have very advanced Harrier GR9s only on the carriers, very capable mud movers and capable of limited self defence, but relying far too heavily on their stealth capability to be able to complete their missions. If detected they would be in serious trouble against an opponent with longer range latest gen. AAMs. By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying, either that or they need escorting by UAVs carrying Meteor but I haven't seen anything down that route yet. Would be interesting though come to think of it, and should be relatively easy once a "Wingman" platform is developed. These could also act with Typhoon until TEMPEST takes over.

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A new protocol required for alpha scrambles, step one move the pm and the press corp :lol:


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Lord Jim wrote:Surely the UK needs Meteor on the F-35 as part of the Carrier Strike Groups layered air defence? If it doesn't carry it it will be like have very advanced Harrier GR9s only on the carriers, very capable mud movers and capable of limited self defence, but relying far too heavily on their stealth capability to be able to complete their missions. If detected they would be in serious trouble against an opponent with longer range latest gen. AAMs. By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying, either that or they need escorting by UAVs carrying Meteor but I haven't seen anything down that route yet. Would be interesting though come to think of it, and should be relatively easy once a "Wingman" platform is developed. These could also act with Typhoon until TEMPEST takes over.
Tinman begs to differ.

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Ron5 wrote:By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying
Why?

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Because the F-35 is supposed to be a swing role platform. How often does an F-16, F-18, Typhoon, Rafale not carry BVR missiles on an attack mission? Usually they are carrying both WVR and BVR, but the F-35 will carry the former under its wings rather than internally.

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Ron5 wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:Surely the UK needs Meteor on the F-35 as part of the Carrier Strike Groups layered air defence? If it doesn't carry it it will be like have very advanced Harrier GR9s only on the carriers, very capable mud movers and capable of limited self defence, but relying far too heavily on their stealth capability to be able to complete their missions. If detected they would be in serious trouble against an opponent with longer range latest gen. AAMs. By default they really should be carrying 2 Meteor in their internal bays regardless of whatever else they are carrying, either that or they need escorting by UAVs carrying Meteor but I haven't seen anything down that route yet. Would be interesting though come to think of it, and should be relatively easy once a "Wingman" platform is developed. These could also act with Typhoon until TEMPEST takes over.
Tinman begs to differ.
I simply suggested that there are issues other than what's in the public domain, the defence secretary and trade secretary are override America as I type this, so let's just wait and see and stop believing everything that's reported as gospel.

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Lord Jim wrote:Because the F-35 is supposed to be a swing role platform. How often does an F-16, F-18, Typhoon, Rafale not carry BVR missiles on an attack mission? Usually they are carrying both WVR and BVR, but the F-35 will carry the former under its wings rather than internally.

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Dependingon the role, the F35 over Syria and Iraq, are not operating as true LO, they also have their radar emitters transmitting due to the amount of deconfliction needed. If it was bombing downtown Tehran it would be clean, internal weapons only and full “bat mode” switched on.

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The Israelis went into Syria in full "Bat", mode. For the RAF using the F-35 simply gives the Pilots operational experience in a limited way whilst using the F-35, the effect on the ground is little different than if we were using a Typhoon. We may not be using its full capabilities but experience is experience.

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I really hope the RAF maintains a constant series of rolling upgrades for both its Tranche 2 and 3 Typhoons and doesn't get left behind other users, like what happened with out E-3s. Having such upgrades in RAF service will help exports so a deal could be struck with Eurofighter in theory. We also need to have our Tranche 2 and 3 Typhoons at the same standard and not have fleets within fleets. The fleet should also start benefiting from discoveries made within the TEMPEST programme as well, which could mean the UK operating the most advanced versions of the fighter. One can live in hope.

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That past-90 degree feature is pretty neat. It can do EA against a target and not have to close distance, something F-35 can't do as the array is fixed (for now at least).

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From Flight ..
Italy backs UK radar for Eurofighter fleet modernisation
By Craig Hoyle14 September 2021

Italy appears set to join the UK in acquiring a Leonardo-built active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar as part of a modernisation activity for part of its Eurofighter combat aircraft fleet.

Announced on 14 September, the development comes after the defence ministries in Rome and London signed a Statement of Principles document related to collaboration on the European Common Radar System (ECRS) Mk2 sensor.

Rome intends to integrate Leonardo’s ECRS Mk2 sensor with some of its Eurofighters

“The move represents the first step towards Italy’s full participation in the ECRS Mk2 programme,” Leonardo says.

An joint team will soon begin work to incorporate Italian industry into the activity, which is already under way ahead of the future integration of new sensors with some of the UK Royal Air Force’s (RAF’s) Eurofighter Typhoons.

“The first stage of collaboration, to take place this autumn, will see a team of engineers from Leonardo’s Nerviano, Milan-based radar site join the Mk2 development team at Leonardo’s Edinburgh site,” the company says.

These personnel will be involved in continued development work, and in “acquiring system design capabilities that will ensure that the Italian MoD has sovereign control over the new radar system at every stage of its operational life”, Leonardo says.

Rome is the last of the four core Eurofighter nations to have selected an AESA radar, with Germany and Spain on course to field ECRS Mk1 sensors produced by Hensoldt and Indra, respectively. Export customers Kuwait and Qatar, meanwhile, will field Typhoons equipped with Mk0 sensors.

Leonardo says initial system hardware for the UK’s AESA standard is on schedule for delivery to BAE Systems’ Warton site in Lancashire next year, for aircraft integration and flight trials use. Initial operational capability with the RAF is due to be achieved during 2025.

Leonardo is advancing AESA radar testing for the UK at its Edinburgh facilities

As part of a UK-led Typhoon offer to Finland, Helsinki has also been offered industrial participation in the ECRS Mk2 programme. A decision on the nation’s HX contest is expected later this year, with the Eurofighter facing competition from the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, Lockheed Martin F-35A and Saab Gripen E/F.

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