Now were talking. FOST, ASW, submarine operations, that's something worty to learn from the RN. But that's not something that you will learn from these Rivers.Tempest414 wrote:Firstly I am sure you have heard of the RN's FOST program that trains all UK ships and Navies all around the world just because a ship dose not have a full set of weapons dose not mean it can't act that dose in a training ex tactic and training are what win battles like in the Falkland where the Argentine pilots lacked nothing in skill and bravery but lacked modern tactical training and combat. We see all the time navies doing RAS training without a tanker. As said above there are many training tasks that can and will be carried outabc123 wrote:Ok, let's agree to disagree.
About training, the only such navy that crosses my mind could be Cambodia. Others really don't need to learn anything from two low-tech ships like Rivers, I mean, what to learn, how to operate RHIB or 30 mm gun or navigation radar? They all have and use that allready for decades.
This situation reminds me about sending of HMS PoW and Repulse, during WW2, to deter IJN. We all know how it ended and how much that deterred them. If the HMG didn't send them, the end result would be the same, but the RN would have two battleships more and Tom Thumb and 3000 fine RN sailors would be alive for much longer. And maybe somewhere else they might actually make the difference.
As for the POW/ Repulse mistakes are made in war they Should have waited for a carrier to arrive as I have said before had Indomitable arrived and been with the battle group thing would have been different as her air-wing of 22 Sea Hurricanes and 18 Wildcats would have been a match for the attacking force but it was not
Argies lacked just two things in 1982, smarter political leadership and better equipment. Nothin g else.
About Indomitable, IMVHO, even the half of the RN carrier/BB force at the time wouldn't be enough to stop the Japanese, but that's not important now.