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- 21 Apr 2024, 17:19
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
In very high end situations why not use type 31 as a missile barge? If they do end up fitting mk41 at some point fill it with sm3. If it’s within a task group a type 45 or a usn destroyer can do the tracking and sensing. Or if it’s around nato/uk territories let the assure systems do the hard bit. ...
- 21 Apr 2024, 17:16
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
1) CAMM systems are said to be similar to PAMS. If so, and CAMM can be integrated into TACTICOS with no issue, could we not reverse it? Doable. And it will cost as much as T45, of course? This is the whole point I’m stating. I can see no reason an AAW ship with SeaViper on TACTICOS can be cheaper t...
- 21 Apr 2024, 17:13
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
...Thanks, so your proposal is to make an expensive AAW version of T31. Integrating SeaViper system into TACTICOS CMS will cost a lot. Adding the required CMS analyses power will cost a lot. And, integrating Aster-30 missile into Mk41 VLS will cost (or your proposal is to locate Sylver A50 VLS in p...
- 21 Apr 2024, 17:05
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Also, you are completely ignoring the threat today, let alone the future. Even with some of the unfunded bells and whistles people want to add to the GP T31 it will not be enough. These ships have been designed to run away gracefully, nothing more. I believe the correct term is "bravely run aw...
- 21 Apr 2024, 16:59
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
- Replies: 743
- Views: 204044
Re: Ground Based Air Defence
Does the arrow(missile) and the sensor need to be co-located for ballistic missile defence? No, this is where technologies like CEC come into play. The UK is an island so a base land capability enhanced when needed by a mobile platforms that can also be used in other regions is critical. That’s mor...
- 21 Apr 2024, 16:57
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
- Replies: 743
- Views: 204044
Re: Ground Based Air Defence
We are supposed to be part of the European Sky Sheild initiative, based on Medium range: primarily IRIS-T SLM Long range: MIM-104 Patriot Very long range (exoatmospheric): Arrow 3 Though presumably, we might opt for SAMP-T (Aster 30) or CAMM-MR in place of Patriot and CAMM/CAMM-ER in place of IRIS-...
- 21 Apr 2024, 16:51
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
- Replies: 743
- Views: 204044
Re: Ground Based Air Defence
Does the arrow(missile) and the sensor need to be co-located for ballistic missile defence? No, this is where technologies like CEC come into play. The UK is an island so a base land capability enhanced when needed by a mobile platforms that can also be used in other regions is critical. That’s mor...
- 21 Apr 2024, 16:49
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255800
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
We should have words with their head of state. He won’t be for long - there’s a referendum in the off-ing. Perhaps a Commonwealth Development fund to give countries options for investment should be at the top of the list - play China at their own game. There is BII but it seems too bust making mone...
- 21 Apr 2024, 03:37
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15081
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
It is good that defence is a central issue but whoever wins is going to have a massive tab to pay. Defence isn't a central issue for people. Current YOUGOV polling does show an increase in importance up to 19% of adults in uk now putting it as 1 of three top concerns compared to about 10% through l...
- 21 Apr 2024, 00:18
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
- Replies: 743
- Views: 204044
Re: Ground Based Air Defence
Why not ground based?Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024, 23:39 If the U.K. needs a £10bn Iron Done system with ABM capability the 6x missing Type 45 should the main component of it.
- 20 Apr 2024, 23:03
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255800
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
It’s alright we will throw a cocktail party next time we visit… That’s right diplomacy is the answer - sending a warship because China is investing money seems rather overdoing it don’t you think. I would have thought an economic, trade and investment plan might have been more appropriate. Fair - d...
- 20 Apr 2024, 21:14
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Also, you are completely ignoring the threat today, let alone the future. Even with some of the unfunded bells and whistles people want to add to the GP T31 it will not be enough. These ships have been designed to run away gracefully, nothing more. I believe the correct term is "bravely run aw...
- 20 Apr 2024, 21:09
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
To be clearer I meant the new long ranged SMART-L-EWC (Early Warning Capability) Radar in addition to Artisan. Adding Sampson is an option I guess but suspect the addition of the two will increase top weight too much, plus the fact it will not be able to be positioned high like the T45 means it’s n...
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:41
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
I guess you are proposing to use CEC to control SM-6? In other words, using T31 only as a Mk41 arsenal and SMART-L radar picket? In that case, there is a US destroyer there. In a theater as small as Red Sea, why not the US Destroyer just do the job? "The Americans will do it" is an old mi...
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:36
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
I assume you meant “isn’t the best answer” - in which case the RN is saying. Given the PIP upgrades the RN wouldn’t be sending their only active AAW destroyer without good cause. Sorry you've lost me now you were busy knocking down a strawman that nobody was suggesting. I was just stating the facts...
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:32
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
- Replies: 743
- Views: 204044
Re: Ground Based Air Defence
Martlet refers to the Wildcat/LMM capability according the Navy...i.e. the system as a whole. A Wildcat armed with LMM becomes Martlet...obviously the names hark back to the Grumman F4F fighter names in RN service in WW2... First time I've seen that claim anywhere. The manufacturer seems to think t...
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:18
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1562235
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
But, HMS Endurance was not hit. Task for River B2 there is to be an OPV, not as an escort. Contribute to day-by-day presence. More similar to River B1/B2 "escorting" Russian cruisers in the Channel. Of course, even if it is T23 frigate escorting the Russian cruiser, T23 will NOT survive t...
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:17
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1562235
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Argentina is in no fit state to attempt another invasion. The military is severely curtailed compared to 1982 and the country is in economic dire straits. Current inflation rate is 287%. They introduced a new 2,000 peso bank note which is worth £1.86.
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:10
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255800
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
It’s alright we will throw a cocktail party next time we visit… That’s right diplomacy is the answer - sending a warship because China is investing money seems rather overdoing it don’t you think. I would have thought an economic, trade and investment plan might have been more appropriate. Fair - d...
- 20 Apr 2024, 20:03
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255800
- 20 Apr 2024, 19:59
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15081
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
Bays are currently in use, Albions are laid up unusable. Surely you replace the out of use ships first.
- 20 Apr 2024, 19:56
- Forum: Joint Service
- Topic: Directed Energy Weapons
- Replies: 57
- Views: 6475
Re: Directed Energy Weapons
Despite your panicked introduction of a bunch of red herrings, the basic point was that the WR-21 was not adequately tested because of Hoon's decision to close Pyestock. That lack of testing lead directly to the failures of the ships when in service. I know you will respond with more nonsense as yo...
- 20 Apr 2024, 01:05
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1937
- Views: 255800
- 19 Apr 2024, 18:57
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
• Captas 4 for T31s and Captas 2 for the RB2s. What would the point of a towed array on the RB2s be? T31 can either carry weapons it self or an armed helicopter to prosecute the sub, what is a River meant to do? Scare it way just by pinging away on its sonar? A valid tactic I suppose. If they were ...
- 19 Apr 2024, 18:14
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9749315
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
What have we seen in the Red Sea a massive use of cheap and not so cheap drones. This doesn't appear to be an odd occurrence going forward. To have ships capable of dealing with it at non budget blowing price would seem to me to be a very strategic choice. What we have seen in the Red Sea is the va...