What is the current UK bridging capability aside from Titan? Alvis Unipower still in use?

When you see how the taliban still had plenty of trucks with machine guns mounted despite being at war with the US for 20 years, there is a lot to be said for heavily armed, highly mobile and highly dispersed small vehicles with decent mine protection. And F35 or Typhoon would obliterate a heavily ...

The list looks very questionable. Direct fire. Is that just RWS? Mortars. Is that just an internal stowage scheme for carrying a dismounted mortar team? Air defence. As with mortars, is this integrated, or just a few tubes stowed in the back for RBS70 dismounted team? Not sure what OP though with d...

It is interesting that the Seahawk Sigma platform has dropped from 5 to 4 missiles, there must be a reason for it? Perhaps the trials on HMS Sutherland a couple of years ago highlighted an issue? http://www.msi-dsl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/SIGMAFeature.jpg I expect it's a performance issue. T...

BB85 wrote:Patria 6x6 could cover all of the above roles, I think the base vehicle is under £1m as well which prob means it will never happen. Its even amphibious too from memory.

If the budget for MRVP was £1m per platform we'd probably be buying more Foxhounds...

The variants needed by the British Army are; Armoured Personnel Carrier. Command Vehicle. Armoured Recovery Vehicle. Ambulance. Joint Fires Vehicle. Signals Vehicle. ISTAR/EW Vehicle. Engineering Support Vehicle. Mortar. Bridgelayer. Combat Engineering vehicle. SPAA Platform. Overwatch/NLOS Platfor...

Self-moved to MRVP thread.

Talking about HET...

What if there was a BOXER Heavy-Tractor variant...

I think BOXER IFV is the lowest priority, for practicality and cost reasons. The MIV programme is intended to replace a host of roles performed by FV432 and others, as well as further variants (repair, recovery and bridging) that enable the force. Hence what we saw at DSEi was not an IFV. Had we stu...

Kiwi PM Jacinda Whats-her-face has already banned the new Aussie subs from New Zealands tectonically unstable, volcanic waters - even before they've been designed.... Maybe she's pissed about not being invited into AnzUKUS :mrgreen: Did she? In 1984 she was only 4 years old, so that's quite impress...

Timmymagic wrote:. Not sure why they've covered over Javelin's name either...they really need to sort that wallpaper out too...

I'm going to guess and say too many questions related to the ATGM.

The USA / UK and Australia need to let the French have their tantrum and give them nothing in return as nothing is due. The French dropped the ball on this - why should their be any compensation or "favours" to "buy them off" ? Whether you like it or not, the majority of UK ISTA...

. It's very true to say that in the absence of any formal cancellation announcement, Dragonfire could be well and kicking. But, in the absence of anything from the Dragonfire team (and wouldn't DSEI be a great place to make some buzz?) it's fair to speculate that the program has been quietly side l...

Because a Bofors (or any AAA) is going to be useless against a manoeuvring target? 57mm Orka goes someway to addressing that Range 8km, Muzzle velocity 1000m/s, ToF 8+ secs. How does that hit a manoeuvring target? By manoeuvring as well that is the point of Orka That's a gross exaggeration of Orka'...

Not sure by what metric it would be considered a failure. The MoD placing a contract with somebody else to provide the same capability? Wrong. Raytheon capability is anti-UAV, and isn't just Laser system. Dragonfire is point-defence, only laser. It's not difficult to see the difference. The origina...

Tempest414 wrote:

RunningStrong wrote:Because a Bofors (or any AAA) is going to be useless against a manoeuvring target?

57mm Orka goes someway to addressing that

Range 8km, Muzzle velocity 1000m/s, ToF 8+ secs.

How does that hit a manoeuvring target?

, the Dragonfire laser proof of concept was 30 kW / £30 million which has been hinted at was a failure. Not sure by what metric it would be considered a failure. It's still in development and was understood by many to be a development programme and not an end product. Second question is perhaps mor...

The USA / UK and Australia need to let the French have their tantrum and give them nothing in return as nothing is due. The French dropped the ball on this - why should their be any compensation or "favours" to "buy them off" ? Whether you like it or not, the majority of UK ISTA...

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RunningStrong wrote:Of course, but that wouldn't use much of the payload/capacity of the significantly larger Boxer.

I wonder if you could squeeze the launcher onto a JLTV?

It would fit, it wouldn't be a squeeze.

Which is exactly what the MRV-P Pt. 1 vehicle can accommodate in utility variant, but that's not a given these days. That's not any part of the MRVP requirement and if it were, it would not be based on the JLTV utility variant any more than the US VSHORAD versions are. Which requirements? There's n...

So to quickly recap on DSEI 2021, companies setting our their stalls for 155mm artillery competition for Truck v AFV Wheeled v AFV tracked. Oh and there was an M777 in the lobby. HX3 https://mobile.twitter.com/RheinmetallAG/status/1438412193272410116 HX2 Archer https://mobile.twitter.com/historicfir...

Lord Jim wrote:One option would be to build a Mission Module for Boxer containing the launcher and control station(s) from the Stormer/HVM.

Of course, but that wouldn't use much of the payload/capacity of the significantly larger Boxer.

The Stormer is great for the armoured units I was thinking more along the lines of the Malaysian 4x4 with a pole mounted manual 3 round unit on it for light motorized units Which is exactly what the MRV-P Pt. 1 vehicle can accommodate in utility variant, but that's not a given these days. I'm sure ...

1. JLTV is half the price of any of its competitors. That's why it was selected by the UK. Fitting UK comms is not an issue. You're really top notch on your pricing knowledge, care to share your definitive sources? As far as I'm aware, UK doesn't have an export price for JLTV at the kit level we re...

At the other end of the spectrum we could do with a simple 360 degree triple mounted LMM on a vehicle allowing it to move quickly and be ready as soon as the vehicle stops I think it'll happen, but not until MRV-P platforms are clearly defined. I would expect it's a simple addition to a utility var...