The fact that the Scot's still think, after 300yrs, that they'd be better off with the Continental Euro trash in Brussels, shows that the Union isn't worth saving. If they don't feel British after 300yrs, they never will, time to be shot of them. Let the EU bankroll them instead of the rUK bunging t...

I wonder how the RN comes to a figure for the number of separate Female crew berths? Do they expect an upper limit on the percentage of crew that will be female, you can't leave bunk space empty in anticipation of that figure being lower or higher and if the male & female berthing's are practica...

Behind the (breached) Telegraph Pay-Wall..more substance on the C2's with the new Digital camouflage, which I assume will make it onto the 'Challenger 3':

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zanahoria wrote:Just in case anyone is wondering why there isn’t enough cash to fund defence programs over the next few years.

You're quoting that utter fucking remoaner loon, as your source?

You fail.

Three Type 45's actually at sea...can't remember the last time that was the case.

This is a ship that's meant to deploy globally, so Rosyth is hardly an issue. Portsmouth, I get, but why other places on the south coast as opposed to anywhere else nationally? Rosyth will be a problem for long term spending so long as the idiot Scottish population keep drinking from the SNP 'Kool ...

Project Tempest is the cover story on the latest Issue of Flight international and sounds very promising with the program progressing well despite the disruption caused by the pandemic..

so Johnson is right to face down the (suspiciously pro-Remain) claque within his own party. This is ALL its about, they really couldn't give a damn about him bending the lockdown rules, its just a golden opportunity for the remoaner headbangers, both within and without of the Conservative party to ...

Best tactic we could employ right now is to walk away and let pressure build up from within the EU capitals. French fisherman, German car makers, Italian luxury goods makers, Spanish tourism lobbyists will have a way of focusing minds like no other. ..Downing Street will start getting phone calls fr...

Even if given the same budget, the UK would still be running catchup in many areas. Nonsense. All the areas of next gen fighter tech are well understood by numerous countries at this stage. Stealth...I doubt their is very little we don't know about stealth properties and how to apply them. Engine t...

RetroSicotte wrote: You'd rather they still use Land Rover WMIKs?

As I understood it, Panthers, Huskeys & Foxhounds were all meant to replace Land Rovers..

These things were a UOR purchase for desert conditions in Afghanistan, they are completely unsuited to the Northern European climate.

Why are we still pumping money into these open air death traps?

And we would of ended up with just 2 smaller carriers as 2 is “all we need” in government eyes. No, we would have been locked into a 'it will be cheaper to build them than cancel' contract whichever way the RN had gone because Gordon Brown would have been looking after the Clyde, as he did with the...

Ron5 wrote:
why the UK ended up with two large carriers instead of 3 little ones.

'3 little ones' wouldn't have been the 20,000t Invincible class carriers, they would have been a more capable, 30-40,000t class, probably with a maximum 18 (24 surge) F-35B air wing on each.

Brasil wrote:

tomuk wrote: A variation of the 'Mushroom' launchers fitted on the Type 23

Already have a name? I'm looking to know this because it looks like the same model that Brazil adopted for its new light frigates, Tamandaré class.

Sea Ceptor.

RetroSicotte wrote:Worth bearing in mind that news author has a notable trend regarding "Buy more little ones!" as his personal line that's turned up many times.

He was just reporting what another defence website put online.

The link to that article is in there.

Interesting, even the Yanks are considering 'downsizing' their Nuclear Carrier ambitions.. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32504/ford-class-of-supercarriers-may-end-after-four-ships-navy-eyeing-smaller-carriers-report Now at then end of the day I don't think they'll be able to bring themselves...

FFS, the pathetic defeatism on display in this thread is just that, pathetic. Tempest is about keeping alive a fully sovereign capability alive in dozens of areas related to high tech military aerospace for decades to come and keeping hold of tens of thousands, proabably hundreds of thousands of job...

They need to get some real business revenue into the company otherwise this just bumbles along forever as one of those never ending British research projects. I’d suggest MOD applications for hypersonic missiles - do that now and find the space ship off the back end Well, they're currently finishin...

Just put the rambling idiot on your 'ignore' list, like I have.

The guy is a total waste of bandwidth.

Just looking on wiki and said France spends 2.3%gdp and 63.8bill us dollar UK only 1.8% and 50 bill us Dollar ,we going to have to increase spend loads just to catch up with France .even Germany spends as 49.5bill about the same as UK and everybody slates them for their lack of spending ,just shows...

SKB wrote:Comparison
(photos: @CavasShips)
^ Bridge of HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)
^ Bridge of USS Gerald R Ford (CVN-78)

..I know the QE class has a reduced crewing requirement compared to the American carriers but that is just ridiculous

A bit surprising to read from it that PoW is supposedly 3 metres wider and 4 metres longer. I've previously measured them both from photos and they're identical So which is correct? I'll take the official figures from a sanctioned RN release over the musings of anyone on this forum, thank you very ...

abc123 wrote:How is that possible?

Little bit extra here, little bit extra there and bigger on-board pub for the officers...it all adds up

So now its official (according to this RN infographic just released)

The POW is bigger than QE:



Link to full release: