Why would LM corporate have any confidence in another UK Land development programme? Why would the MoD have any confidence in LM UK or GD UK after these debacles? By the way it was partly GD's and LM's fault that British owned AFV industry was killed so pleading for mercy now is a little obtuse. Ho...

I agree that no one is perfect in this situation, but ultimately, learning and improving has to be the name of the game. Problem is how much good money has to be thrown after bad before they learn how to actually do their ****ing job all the while the Army continues to shrink and operate poor equip...

Which BAE? Rheinmetall BAE systems land may be delivering CR3, but they have no corporate reach-back to CV90. So you'd want an overseas business with no UK presence putting in a proposal? At this point, I wouldn't be opposed to it, providing of course the rumours about Ajax are accurate. I'm sure y...

How tempting? Let's consider the precedence you'd be setting. GD spend millions on Methyr Tydfil to bin it. LM spend millions on Ampthill to bin it. FPE spent millions on Foxhound facilities, only for it to be a limited purchase and not considered for later programmes. Why would anyone have confide...

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RunningStrong wrote:

Ron5 wrote: Virtually every commentator that's actually seen and heard the Ajax in person, remarks on how noisy it is.

People standing outside are now experts on the crewspace?

So really noisy then.

Showing you know nothing about AFV acoustics.

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Francis is already being pulled up by other people in industry for talking absolute rubbish. And why does he think an ITAR UAS couldn't fly off the carriers? What does he think the F35 is!?

Which BAE? Rheinmetall BAE systems land may be delivering CR3, but they have no corporate reach-back to CV90. So you'd want an overseas business with no UK presence putting in a proposal? At this point, I wouldn't be opposed to it, providing of course the rumours about Ajax are accurate. I'm sure y...

One wonders if, in the land of miracles, BAE could emerge with a fresh CV90 offer, riding to save the day with a quick to turn around unicorn proposal? One can dream right? :lol: Would be quite a PR coup in the face of their critics - C'mon BAE get cracking! :thumbup: Which BAE? Rheinmetall BAE sys...

Ron5 wrote: Virtually every commentator that's actually seen and heard the Ajax in person, remarks on how noisy it is.

People standing outside are now experts on the crewspace?

Caribbean wrote:@TOC usually seems to know what he's talking about. 5cm would have seemed an excessive variance in size, however, never mind 40cm. I hope we are returning them to Spain for re-work!

I'd love to know what verification is applied to confirm he knows what he's talking about. I suspect none.

Is it like a competition between UKDJ and other Twitter "experts" to post the most clueless AJAX stories possible? Are they aiming for commissions from the Daily Fail?

Rivets can be drilled and replaced with no impact to the material, which is not dissimilar to many security bolts used to hold armour on. Replacing an existing weld changes the composition of the surrounding metal work. Putting a hole through a panel to accommodate a fastener changes its ballistic ...

Can you cite a Def Stan definition? Because the US govt freely publishes most of their standards, they tend to be the de facto international standard. I wouldn't quote Def Stan on a public forum, no. It's not the "de facto" International standard. That would be STANAG. If the impact of re...

Taking the mass of the armour off would impact the performance, but that’d be it. That's utter rubbish. Even appliqué changes the structural performance of a vehicle. You're bolting rigid steel plate/composite onto the structure FFS. Harmonic frequencies, rotational acceleration and deceleration, s...

Aplique armour has some defects: Shearing strain means an non lethal hit can mal-align panels, needing an angle grinder anyway! This means you have to replace the whole lot. Aplique really doesn't like ERA. The shock wave will cause delamination. This has been seen in several conflicts and one of t...

So a Bridgelayer was being trailed. I wish the MoD was not so secretive about such things when there isn't really a need to be. But then they have always had the mentality the it is best to keep everything secret and release only what they want, where as the US military puts its resources into maki...

How is that appliqué!? It’s not part of the underlying structure. With an angle grinder and a bit of effort you could remove it and still drive the tank away. If anyone started using an angle grinder on a vehicle to remove large metallic chunks of the vehicle it would immediately invalidate the Cer...

Technically Chobham/Dorchester is an appliqué, but it’s welded in place. How is that appliqué!? Is there any information about breaking it down for deployment for a smaller profile to fit in the platform carrying it ? The turret is moving to appliqué, so that could be removed. I assume the commande...

seaspear wrote:Is there any information about breaking it down for deployment for a smaller profile to fit in the platform carrying it ?

The turret is moving to appliqué, so that could be removed. I assume the commander's 360 sight could be removed if there was a height restriction, most likely on railway.

. 3)Agree with MarkTiggers assessment. We do need to invest in rail, re-opening old Beeching lines on a light rail basis, improving commuter trains capacity (esp.London), removing bottlenecks, . That's exactly what HS2 does. It even improves services in Aberystwyth because it removes the limited ca...

Airbus has integrated Turkish TEBER Laser Guidance kit for Mk-82 bombs on an Airbus owned C295. Together with TEBER, UMTAS and Cirit missiles of Roketsan are to be integrated to the aircraft. TEBER is also speculated to be used in Nagorno Karabakh conflict, with retrofit version for Su25 and Mig29 ...

This 'everyone getting tied in knots' just because there are only so many characters for you, to declare the 'thruth' is just so rideculous ... and leads into these "he / she is no good" etc Why don't you guys actually try to make your point here, in plain English (Ron is allowed American...

Does anyone know if we, the UK, have kept ion developing armour beyond Dorchester that was fitted to the Challenger 2? This thread answers that question and more .. https://twitter.com/JonHawkes275/status/1391659371009032192 Suggest anyone that cares should read the entire thread, Jon adds details ...

Does anyone know if we, the UK, have kept ion developing armour beyond Dorchester that was fitted to the Challenger 2? The CR3 shall be designed around applique so it can bolt on the latest, threat specific armour. As for whether the Challenger 3 will be better than the M1A2C or Leopard 2A7Z, I thi...

Does anyone know if we, the UK, have kept ion developing armour beyond Dorchester that was fitted to the Challenger 2? The CR3 shall be designed around applique so it can bolt on the latest, threat specific armour. As for whether the Challenger 3 will be better than the M1A2C or Leopard 2A7Z, I thi...