And they'd have been the most vocal about it meaning the closure of the other yard as well!
Damned English, they closed our yard!
Damned English they wouldn't invest in our yard!

tomuk wrote:The SNP and the unions weren't very supportive of the Frigate Factory at Scotstoun as it meant the closure of their beloved Govan Yard. So it wasn't entirely down to the treasury.

Shame they don't have to reimburse the MOD the cost difference in production between the 2 methods!

They'll just claim on insurance, then say UK Gov failed to protect them and its not their fault...

If the laser designater can target them? ...
Maybe need some radar/IR guided weapons also?

Shame there was no Wildcat with 20x LMM on hand..... Might have dissuaded the Iranians?

Should not read ukdf after a liquid lunch :sick: whilst listening music on random :thumbdown: , so to the tune of Chuck Berry's No particular place to go: Riding along in a boxer mobile, my oppo beside me at the wheel, we got shot at the range of a mile, the incoming running wild, shoutin' and holle...

And they'll say that we don't NEED to, but should, but cannot afford as they have to buy votes with nhs/education.

The question is is it the mk41 VLS insert, or the standalone 3 cell (12 missile) ExLS?

Maybe they didn't want the Americans to get lost :p

Maybe explosive bolts for real, but unbolt manually for training, or maybe fully frangible cover but save and reuse so as to reduce costs?

Not just the Brits though, some damn brave French men and women as well as a lot of other nations and people.

So in a article on the Save the RN site for the F-35 they say that the USMC are planning to eventually have one squadron permanently designated to deploy on UK carriers So at least the QE Class will always have some F-35B's aboard then, because we'd be struggling on our own between crap politicians...

You do not want to risk using your SSBN's as attack subs though, and with more of them around their signature will be easier for potential enemies to identify. If you sit one off Russia or China's coast, will they honestly believe you that its not an ICBM armed one? Why would they take the risk. If ...

Aim for 8%, reluctantly accept 4% if we must

We want eight (%) and we won't wait!

Knowing the media, probably a few small mentoring teams and a couple of small peacekeeping detachments.
Nothing like media headline B.S.....

How about Meteor converted to a new ALARM missile?

Comes into being 1st april. Was not the greatest April fools, but far fom the worst.

This all really pisses me off, (though I sympathise with those that lost a loved one) but..... Equality! Only go after squaddies if they are also going after all the terrorists, on both sides. Oh wait, not going after the IRA etc, so they shouldn't go after the armed forces either. But there's nothi...

Or the Russians expect the Indians to try and reverse engineer it and attempt to build their own SSN's in the future?

Feck it, declare them complex! After all they carry a feck tonne of ammo/explosives. Need good build quality, design and damage control.
With the actions of Spain over Gibraltar alone they dont deserve even the opportunity of getting any of our tax money.

Has there been any upgrades/updates to the S1850 radars since their introduction?

I'm sorry, but is it only me who hates the forward opening hangar?
Sailing along at 15+ knots, open hanger to get helo out and wind blows everything to hell?
Surely a forward superstructure with rearward hangar and flight deck would be much more practical?

Maybe a couple of USMC CH53 if they have an F35 sqn on board?

A return to the old 5% days is what we need. A return to a job for life with no threats of cuts making people leave.
But I'd take 2.5-3% as a damn good effort!

Or could the $800m mean the Hull, and government furnished equipment like radars and weapons systems be an additional $400m per ship?
Because I think a Type 26 should be easily mass produced for $1.2b USD each.