Never dawned on me till now but because of the soft launch system it doesn't light up the night sky when fired like after system.

What is missing, which is a problem throughout UK defence establishment, is a lack of transparency. Everything is hidden behind all too convenient a veil of operational or worse commercial sensitivity. US senators and reps would be banging on the doors of the Pentagon\White House if a similar lack ...

It seemed a bit strange we had heard nothing of the Type 23s since taking over from the Type 45. I wonder if the tempo has changed down there.

And if they keep cutting before this master plan is achieved? Wont that leave us in a spot needing to spend more money trying to get what ever capability we need back?

Taking a breath with the hatchet while all that is figured out surely much be the first step.

In fact I heard recently the Defence Secretary saying that if the 3% was given tomorrow, the MOD wouldn’t be able to spend it. Sorry but he is out right lying. There are cuts planned across all 3 services that could be stopped with more funding but that would be admitting mistakes in an election ye...

Unless we see major progress with HMS Glasgow, I suspect we will have 2 sitting in the dry docks getting fitted out. (I seem to remember that is what happened with the type 45's)

It’s hardly surprising as absolutely no one appears to be able to articulate what the increase would be spent on. Certainly no MPs or commentators in the media are proposing anything specific but lots of complaining about how terrible everything is in defence. Because that would be highlighting pro...

Have we heard anything about the type 23's down there since taking over for HMS Diamond?

Rather than bad welding I think somethings hit it.

I guess I got my answer.

Its not a small missile you would expect a AEW&C to be able to see a S-200 coming, if it cant see that what chance does it have against an F-22 or F-35 :wtf: I don't think any air force if that incompetent to shot down their own AEW&C :think: I just wonder if we are seeing the true capabilit...

Any confirmation of the S-200?

I suspect its a little of column a and a little of column b. While I don't expect (and never want to see) any hard details on this, the "Trust me bro" reaction from the MOD does not inspire confidence. In this day and age with lunatics invading their neighbors and considerable amounts of m...

MOD quote however we are confident that the anomaly was event specific, and therefore there are no implications for the reliability of the wider Trident missile systems and stockpile If this is a 2nd failure of the system and given current world events, is this really a good enough response? :eh:

Interesting video, while 1 F-35 is landing the follow up F-35 is already hovering next to the deck waiting for to land.

Note how they chose to show the F-35s with ASRAAM in the video where as the ones already on deck didn't have them.

We are very good at pledges in the West arnt we

This one seem to be sitting off the coast rather than open water like the rest, mostly likely didn't expect any drones that close to land.

The issue of Rosyth is not really its location, its that the dock might actually be used to build something. Right now its a good dock with a high capacity crane above it, lets just say you got your 3rd carrier, where would QE and POW goes for maintenance whiles its being assembled? That dock has to...

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Another weapon we might be hearing more about.

This one is a bit different, its not coming from the back of someones warehouse, if it turns out to be cheaper and just as effective could it replace the M31 missile?

Whats the reason for going to Germany for the test firing?

And she is off.

And how many did Glasgow have at launch let me think no no one moment ho ya it was none. Really, is that the route you are going? :crazy: We have ordered them for the type 26's and we now have Babcock saying "Type 31 frigates could get Mk 41 during future capability insertion periods"

Tempest414 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 16:27

Jdam wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 16:09 Do we know how many missiles the type 31 will carry when completed?

This will depend on weather T-31 gets 8 - 16 -24 or 32 Mk-41 as it could then carry 32 - 64 -96 or 128 CAMM

Go to the type 31 thread and you will see how many Mk-41 launchers HMS Venturer will have at launch (spoiler none)

The type 26's are as capable as T23 GP but we switched to the Type 31 because they were cheaper, no other reason, they may meet that criteria of a type 23 GP but that's a pleasant bonus. All the official render of the type 31 have 12 mushroom, when was the last time the compliment of missiles wasn't...