the best way to put this across is how I would uses this ships 1) 6 of the 8 56m fast patrol boats would be used in UK home waters 2 covering the North West down to south Wales 2 covering the East coast and 2 in the English channel the remaining 2 would be available for deployment with in Europe 2) ...

What I would like to see is a 3 tier patrol capability with 3 classes 1) 8 x 56m Vita fast patrol boat fitted with 57mm 2 x HMG and a rib with a Scanter 4100 radar and crew of 30 capable of 10 days at sea 2) 6 x B2 Rivers up gunned with 57mm 2 x HMG capable of 35 days at sea 3) 6 x Type 31 fitted wi...

I agree with this and I also feel the Batch 2 Rivers will work well in western and central Med as part of migrant rescue and patrol mission. I would also class type 31 as a global patrol frigate

if the UK were to buy say 4 SSK would we be able to extend the Astute class life though reduced use and if so by how long

If the RN want more attack subs in the next 25-30 years they will need to 1)buy them over seas or 2) build SSK's however were we would build a limited run of SSK I don't know again it would be cheaper to buy 4 type 214's off the shelf

fast attack craft 40m with a top speed of 40 knots and a range of 1000 nmi at 30 knots fitted with a 57mm + 2 x 50 cal. How about the VT Vita/Super-Vita? A bit bigger than you suggested (56-62m), but a British design and in service with Qatar, Oman, Kenya and Greece Thank for this yes it is a bit b...

I agree I think something like a modern day Jaguar Class fast attack craft 40m with a top speed of 40 knots and a range of 1000 nmi at 30 knots fitted with a 57mm + 2 x 50 cal. The Jaguar class had top speed of 42 knots and could do 700 nmi at 35 knots and was armed with 2 40mm + 4 torpedo tubes wit...

It would be nice to see something from Babcock's as to how their design is coming on

I have to say I like the build program as laid out somethings in the summing up are left open with room to talk ( making this a great post) with this in mind 1) I feel that any new LHP should have a ramp for F-35 ops this is not just for UK F-35s but could be used by USMC aircraft and would allow th...

ArmChairCivvy wrote:

Tempest414 wrote: F be up next if so

Faithful
Fearless
Foresight
Fortitude
Furious

Foresight is a big ask, and there "will be" more than 5 of them
... so a couple more?

however if HMG and MOD see it and say it enough they might start to use some of it

I see the last 5 being

London
Liverpool
Birmingham
Manchester
Edinburgh

as are the 5 above

however if in alphabetical order should F be up next if so

Faithful
Fearless
Foresight
Fortitude
Furious

SKB wrote:T26 = City Class.
T31 = Town Class maybe?

the Sandowns class have town names

Pseudo wrote:I reckon they'll keep with the alphabetical sequence, so it'll be something starting with H.

Maybe a Battle Class with HMS Hogue as the first of class or an Admiral Class with Hardy, Hawke or Howe?

My Granddad served on Howe so would love to see this name come back

I would like to see a B class

Bulldog
bloodhound
Broadsword
Britannia
Black Swan or Buccaneer

in this months warship there is a great article in which a growing number in parliament are calling for the CASD to be moved from the MOD budget and for the budget to be 2.5 GBP

it will the 3rd as the first 2 are Glasgow and Belfast

what is going on here is the RN trying hang on to the 8 type 26's and not lose any more of them to the type 31 I feel in the back ground type 31 will be more capable than people think. Arrow head 120 has room built in for a good armament fit but this is yet another case of not getting the best out a...

Tempest414 wrote: it is also where the Echo class were built and HMS Scott so has built ships for the RN in the past and is keeping it hand in at this time Does it work well, having the the hull sitting there diagonally? I was trying to humour you, and everybody else, not going on about it. So, to ...

it is also where the Echo class were built and HMS Scott so has built ships for the RN in the past and is keeping it hand in at this time Does it work well, having the the hull sitting there diagonally? More seriously: indications from both teams that ASW is a consideration + Lets not forget the wh...

If Arrowhead 120 wins out for type 31 do we see Alppedore shipyard as the assembly point as it is just completing the last of 4 Samuel Beckett class 90m OPV's ( for 279 million euros with main armament ) it is also where the Echo class were built and HMS Scott so has built ships for the RN in the pa...

Thanks Donald. Very useful. If this is possible within the budget, is it now the front runner? Is it a credible (assuming good build standards/damage control) light FF? Would be interested in everyone's views on this. Aside from the low number of CAMM and no info regarding sonar, it seems considera...

The other interesting thing is no new unproven tec only kit that is proven and works i.e no room for failure as said must work first time out of the box

It now looks like we could get something that will work and it will be interesting to see what Babcocks now do but it seems that the competition is lighting the fires and this can only be a good thing. Also an interesting use of words in this article was war-fighting capability both BAE and Babcocks...