If we are actually talking about keeping people safe, rather than the politics, then there are a number of things that should be done, primarily to destroy the people traffickers business model - unfortunately this requires a great deal of co-operation from the French, who are locked in an odd mind...

Given that they have been a key element in the most important Royal Navy deployment since the Falklands War, VFMA-211 heading for home strikes me as quite a poignant moment. Safe journey Marines :thumbup: Yes - having them on board for so long was key to the flight operations for all the exercises ...

you need to start a Portsmouth independence movement No way. Docker Hughes tried that once. :mrgreen: Marty "Docker" Hughes is now a local legend of Portsmouth. Docker, born in 1954, was a Pompey fan and had connections with its infamous 6:57 Crew hooligan gang. At the age of 33, Docker r...

For example, I can see the engine room of IH-class LOOKS LILE a bit taller than that of Absalon class. It will be just difference in arrangement, but as the deck height is taller in IH-class, it is natural. http://gpx741k9ffd3p5zv840ulv3j.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/0057-DSC_...

My younger self, who was far more clued up on naval matters than I am now, would always hear about the Greenland-Iceland-UK Gap as important for ASW vs Soviet Union in Cold War days. Is GIUK Gap still important in these days of Russian Navy rearming and with longer range of Russian sub-launched mis...

First off we don't need to make the River class 110 meters to get what you want the B2's can be fitted with up to 76mm main gun and 30mm second armament as seen on HTMS Krabi also they can operate rotor USV's as seen from the Brazilian tests with S-100 Camcopter witch can be fitted with LMM or I-Ma...

They have some armed police in patrol cars on the Motorways and in London, and routinely have police with submachine guns at main airports. British Transport Police have trained Authorised Firearms Officer (AFO) on railways etc. Who are they (the above examples of UK police) planning on shooting? T...

Even if the Cutters main weapon was a water-cannon, they should be armed with small arms, just like UK airport Police. Who you planning on shooting? They have some armed police in patrol cars on the Motorways and in London, and routinely have police with submachine guns at main airports. British Tr...

Thanks. I was more referring to HMS Trent's deployment on West Africa. She visited Ghana this month, and made a good relation with the local officials, first in decades... Stopped the long long UK absence there. The same can be done at, say, Kenya, Maldives, Seishells, Madagascar, and South Afica. ...

My younger self, who was far more clued up on naval matters than I am now, would always hear about the Greenland-Iceland-UK Gap as important for ASW vs Soviet Union in Cold War days. Is GIUK Gap still important in these days of Russian Navy rearming and with longer range of Russian sub-launched miss...

The R2 won't be taking on Corvettes, they will be tracking and intercepting drug runners, people smugglers and anti piracy patrols. All of which can be performed with UAVs and DS-30 MkII. If they where to take on corvettes they would need armed with anti ship missiles, a better radar and CAAM For p...

AS far as I am concerned, no migrants arriving in the UK by unofficial means should be able to claim asylum. All, including children should be returned to the last safe country they were in, basically France. If a small boat is intercepted, it should take those on the boat aboard and take them back...

There is very little border force can to physically deter them crossing without the risk of drowning women and children which the media would have a field day on. There needs to be some way to fast track their applications and once rejected quickly return them home within days of arriving. How many...

tomuk wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 02:21 You forgot BTP, MOD Police and Civil Nuclear Police and the half a dozen or so Port/Harbour police

Exactly. Too much overlap = lack of clarity in whose responsibility in dealing with = left to someone else.

Looking on first page of this thread, I can't beleive that we have the following organisations responsible for policing and patrolling our borders: Border force (BF) - reports to Home Office Her Majesty's Coastguard (HMCG) - reports to Department for Transport (DfT) Overseas Patrol Squadron - part o...

The R2 won't be taking on Corvettes, they will be tracking and intercepting drug runners, people smugglers and anti piracy patrols. All of which can be performed with UAVs and DS-30 MkII. If they where to take on corvettes they would need armed with anti ship missiles, a better radar and CAAM For p...

Scimitar54 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2021, 07:58 The Suffix was removed some time ago !

Sorry it was an attempt at irony, as in selling one single T31 to Ukraine would justify the e suffix!

Nothing really new here but good news for UKPLC nonetheless. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/17/uk-agrees-sell-warships-missiles-ukraine-tensions-russia-grow/ In early November, the UK signed a treaty with Ukraine for British exports to go to Ukraine to enhance its maritime presence. The t...

So as of the start of 2022 the RN will have 1 x Frigate 1 x Bay class 2 x River Class 4 x MCM East of Suez for me if we added another frigate plus a tanker and RFA Argus this could allow 3 good groups EoS Group 1 ) 1 x frigate , 1 x Bay , 4 x MCM = Gulf Group 2 ) 1 x frigate , Argus = LRG EoS group...

All the specs currently being up in the air is a good thing as it means we can plan the design of all vessels to the requirement other than trying to mash together the LSG out what we have after there built. We know the SSS are going to be tied to CSGs and that’s it so that’s why we need to hope an...

A £130mn B2 River with a £20pa running cost, is a good solution to forward presence. A £400mn T31/T32 with probably double the running costs is not. We should be spending the money instead on more of a low (Sloop) / hi (T26) mix. I think you are wrong here all RN ships today are paper ships if we u...

I still feel that we should be looking to form a CANZUK battle group made up of 1 x Carrier ( UK ) 1 x LHD ( A ) 2 x Bay class ( 1 A and 1 UK ) 3 x Destroyers ( 1 A and 2 UK) 9 x Frigates ( 3 C , 3 A , 2 UK & 1 NZ 4 Aux ( 2 UK , 1 C , 1 NZ ) I would be pushing Australia and Canada to get 12 F-3...

I don’t mind the sound of that at all depending on what the MRSS turns out to be though, for me they need decent helo facilities so they can operate independently of any flattops. Iv been saying for awhile the T32 should be a slightly larger British version of the absalon it just makes sence in eve...

When we look back at 2009 it was as good as it was going to get i.e 1 x LPH , 2 x LPD's , 4 x LSD's , Argus and 6 Point class On top of this we had 2 x light carriers , 6 x destroyers , 17 frigates . Now I for one would like to see the UK Amphib ships get to 1 x Light carrier/ LHA , 6 x 145m Absalo...

Hi First post. As a layman I am finding it very confusing what the Future Commando Force programme and the creation of two new Littoral Response Groups (North and South) will mean both to the Royal Marines and the RN/RFA Amphibious Warships. Welcome @wargame_insomniac I think you can see from readi...