Looks like the Royal Marines are enjoying themselves again.... I hate journalistic puff pieces like this. They always invariably don't stand up to close scrutiny and will be resented by the allies in question because the details of this exercise will almost have certainly been leaked by someone in ...

He should also go for a visit to the Astute assembly hall, in Barrow, while he's here..

That will wind Macron up, no end

The way I see it is that Australia will go with a new common RN/RAN boat design between the UK & AUS, based on the new SSN(R) for the RN. Australia can get in on the ground floor and influence the design spec to what it needs. This will also lead to economies of scale, a single class build of (a...

it’s funny you actually think the US is going to give up a $20+B deal and just give it to the U.K., lol… and even if they were, for some magical reason, where is the capacity in the UK to build it concurrently with Dreadnought? I guess time will tell which one of us is right… P.S.- The Aussies appr...

Just ignore 'em.

They'll go away or grow up (preferably both), their choice.

Nice one, Biden.

..you senile old @#%!

With no US carrier group currently deployed in the Western Pacific, You can bet the military brass at the Pentagon and our Australian friends have no wish whatsoever for the Brits to go stirring up a hornets nest with China at the current time.

dmereifield wrote: We can but hope that actions and words are aligned, for a change

It doesn't really matter one little bit what the current defence secretary says about projected numbers of airframes, only how much money the treasury say is available, to his immediate successors over the next 10-15yrs.

What it highlights is what everyone already knows, 6 T45s was never enough, even without the propulsion problems they have. For the RN, It was a simple choice between a full order of 12, (then reduced to 8) or only getting a single Aircraft Carrier. In the short term, 6 T-45's is a problem, no doub...

I think this upgrade pretty much guarantees the T45's will get at least one life extension to their (long fictional) out of service dates.. With this and the propulsion upgrades, they'd be spending the best part of £1bn for the 6 ships to only have another 8-10yrs service life out of them, before bo...

HMS Spey, re-christened RoS Wee Cranky, Future flagship of the Republic Of Scotland Navy...

Poiuytrewq wrote:Add another 12 launching tubes and the debate stops.

..add another 12 and suddenly the Type 31 order drops from 5 to 4.

I love this for no other reason than it triggered the Scottish separatist twats on Twatter.

...the jet should be flown over their houses, every fucking day.

Could someone answer if publicly known why the MOD thinks the challenger 3 in certain areas could be superior to the Abrams or leopard or is that just spin Depends on how many upgrades the Abrams & Leopard have gone through by 2030. ..9yrs to get a paltry 148 hulls up to standard is a pathetica...

Telegraph Article on the Dreadnought build.

When you have China putting AAW platforms in the water with 100+ VLS, It's not hard to see who & what will be what influences the design of the new class.

..They're going to have to be a lot bigger than 7,500t, that's for sure.

£750m down the drain, just to keep up the illusion that 150 Challengers are a credible force...

I bet they'd struggle to put more than half that number on the actual battlefield as well.

I still sometimes think that, assuming the same level of funding was put in to them, we'd have been better off spending the same amount on 4 or 5 x 35,000t class carriers, similar to the Italian one, than 2x65,000t (or whatever they now displace) QE flat tops. Having 3 of those at sea at all times, ...

Tempest is safe. Its about more than just a new aircraft for the RAF.

Lord Jim wrote:According to Defence News, Lockheed Martin are very worried that the WCSP will be cancelled in the up coming Review.

They should be, The whole sorry affair has been nothing but a lipstick on a (near) 40yr old pig waste of time & money...

I wonder if the French will ever take a step back and realise that they themselves are the common problem whenever these multi-national defence projects start to run in to trouble. :roll: Don't get me wrong, they will patch up their differences because this is primarily all about the politics, not t...

Do you think anyone outside of your pathetic little remoaner/remaniac echo chamber that you've got going on in this thread, is paying the slightest bit of attention to anything your posting?

Is it some kind of therapy for you or something, if so, get (proper) help...

seaspear wrote:it might seem present Tempest technology has nothing to offer

Funny...As if their decision had anything to do with the technology on offer...it was ALL about the politics.

Having the Americans on board the carrier and escorting it serves two purposes, filling the gaps until 2023-24 and more importantly it will put a restraint on China's belligerent behaviour when we enter the South China Sea. If this was just a purely British effort, the level of intimidation and thre...

I tend to think that one of the most significant ways that intranational animosities have been kept alive over the years is through having separate national sports teams and leagues. I don't think that there'd be much support for Scottish secession in Glasgow if Celtic and Rangers were in the UK Pr...