Well, as soon as the "frigate factory" is complete & build moved into that, BAE could build a simple "warehouse" style shed to cover the area where the frigates are currently being assembled & the adjacent disused slipway - that should provide capacity for at least one, ...

Caribbean wrote: ↑14 Apr 2024, 19:43 If the current plans come to fruition, then the T31 will be an extremely potent surface combattant

Please do share. All I've heard is an aspiration to fit Mk 41 VLS of indeterminate size and contents.

but what do I know. :clap: I know a tad more after reading this: PS still think that debugging a system on a deployed warship isn't the smartest idea around. After all, that was the approach taken with the Type 45 propulsion system. Saved oodles on money not testing it out onshore first. (Buff)Hoon...

Seems the good Minister is placing most of his faith for the accelerated service date, in his new procurement rules. Specifically the rule that says immature kit should be put into service so that bugs can be ironed out in the field rather than the development lab. Sounds fukking stupid to me but wh...

A GP frigate for at least half the price or more can provide a good level of ASW with a TAS and it doesn't need to be modularised. But would your GP frigate actually catch any submarines? If the chances of that are tiny, it's wasted money. There a lots of frigates and destroyers around the world fi...

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/bae-target-dramatic-reduction-in-frigate-build-time/ We aim to reduce the build duration from the first of class being 96 months to the eighth being 60 months. More than that, we intend to compress the interval between ships from 18 months to 12 Now that’s an opportu...

serge750 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 15:35 How much are the Polish T31's costing again ? ( with their better sensers & weopons ! ) every extra add-on costs more ....

About a billion each including all costs, but I think you knew that.

You forgot the £100 for them to get a Hogwarts magic wand :D It’s easy to be cynical Ron but would it be more straightforward than what USN is attempting with Constellation? • The forward 32x cell silo would take some substantial re-design. • The addition of hybrid propulsion would take some substa...

I'm afraid Rosyth does not have the capability to design a new escort. They have never done any. T31 design was bought from Denmark. T31-mod can be, but I'm afraid they do not know how to make it ASW-quiet enough. Babcock doesn’t need to design anything. A partnership with BMT could continue the de...

tomuk wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 19:49 A GP frigate for at least half the price or more can provide a good level of ASW with a TAS and it doesn't need to be modularised.

But would your GP frigate actually catch any submarines? If the chances of that are tiny, it's wasted money.

imperialman wrote: ↑09 Apr 2024, 22:01 This outsourcing is designed to ensure that the construction schedules of the Type 26 frigates are accelerated

Accelerated? To get back on schedule or to improve delivery date?

Thanks for the update George

Markam wrote: ↑09 Apr 2024, 14:02 I must have missed that, I could not for the life of me find anything on a "Merlin successor", but I suppose it is not a direct successor but more of a general new initiative.

The UK has listed Merlin as one of the types to be replaced by this program.

It is quite sad we do not seem to have a Merlin successor (or one in the works) to compete in the larger bracket. The UK does have "one in the works". It's the lead nation in the Next Generation Rotorcraft Capability (NGRC) program designed to replace many medium helo's across Europe and ...

SW1 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024, 16:40 That’s not a limited capability anyway you care to cut it.

Extremely limited in both endurance & effectiveness which is why the Koreans are replacing their Lynx with larger helo's.

Ian Hall wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024, 13:00 but thankfully the debate about turning them into some sort of 21st century Panzerschiff has died down of late.

Hey, nothing wrong with Panzerschiff's!!

And you can have the exactly same dipping sonar and processing system that is on merlin on wildcat now. The South Koreans bought it. Thales sell it as compact flash basically they used new materials, replaced hydraulics with electrics to reduce the weight and shrink. And a much shorter cable so no,...

When told that the Iver Huitfeldt was a "proven" design during the Type 31 selection, I asked what exactly had been proved other than they could float and move?

Tempest414 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2024, 14:15 Maybe the RM could do with some CAMM capable Vikings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BvS_10#/m ... -T_SLS.png

*ASRAAM capable

Timmymagic wrote: ↑02 Apr 2024, 11:47 So we could be due a bumper delivery at the back end of the year of 6 a/c, that to all intents and purposes increases the fleet by 20%. True combat capable fleet by 25%+.

Jeesh that's a bit sad.

I don't think either are correct. The Navy intends the T31's to have a regular service life and the NSS doesn't mention Parker's idea of selling on "young" ships. Not all of his recommendations were adopted. "Not all" doing some very heavy lifting there Ron! We might all want mo...

"Not all" doing some very heavy lifting there Ron! Sorry but what does that mean? This particular idea from Parker has been dropped. It was agreeing with you. Suggesting that a great many of Parker's other concepts (particularly in supply chain and distributed build) have similarly gone o...

Martlet is a Navy name for a Navy air to ground missile in Navy service. LMM is the name the Army uses for its surface to air missile. Please keep up. It's the same missile. If you're going to be that petty you should also have picked up that Starstreak is not the name that the Army uses either. Ac...

SW1 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2024, 15:09 The joint harrier force never made it to 4 front line squadrons it only got to 3.

The invincible class operated with up to 14 harriers on it

Just a nice pic

Not very often !!!!

Great that settles it then HMT 600 even with brimstone or 105mm can be lifted by a Chinook Probably why its been seen towing the light gun. Well, I think that's a Coyote. Bit far away to be sure. Oops no, they are Jackals :cry: https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/wp-content/webp-express/webp-images/uplo...

Jensy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2024, 19:41 "Not all" doing some very heavy lifting there Ron!

Sorry but what does that mean? This particular idea from Parker has been dropped.