Closer to £3.2bn at current rates, then add inflation.
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- 22 Jul 2023, 11:56
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
- Replies: 1041
- Views: 324781
Re: Warrior Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
- 21 Jul 2023, 14:19
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1889
- Views: 246655
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
Since when did the MoD become a hostage to industry? Since they sold off all of their ability to design and build new equipment. Is Ajax really fixed? Or is it just easier to say it’s fixed? More that at least half the money has already been agreed upon and paid out at given milestones. It may have...
- 20 Jul 2023, 19:13
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1889
- Views: 246655
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
Clearly that’s a contractual matter between contractor and client. Yet you wish to base a plan upon it being resolved in the least likely way? However, hypothetically speaking, how would future MoD procurement decisions be influenced by a contractor who walked away with £5bn for a vehicle program t...
- 20 Jul 2023, 12:02
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1889
- Views: 246655
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
If you cancel Ajax I don’t think you’ll get much, if any, of the money back
- 19 Jul 2023, 19:43
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
- Replies: 1889
- Views: 246655
Re: General UK Defence Discussion
Swallow hard and scrap Ajax - Rebuild 1st Div and 3rd Div around a mixed fleet of CV90, Boxer and Patria 6x6. You could also write that as:Write off £6bn and spend another 5 years at least getting something else into service which will cost considerably more per vehicle. Then pair up another vehicl...
- 17 Jul 2023, 19:16
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
- 17 Jul 2023, 18:46
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
I didn't know that NLAW or AT-4 had seekers. Can somebody confirm one way or the other? Neither have seekers. The NLAW is guided to follow a flight path dictated by the position and movement of the launcher at and before launch. It also has a sensor to initiate the warhead as it passes over the tar...
- 10 Jul 2023, 22:45
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
At the risk of my sanity, I will defer to the armchair generals infinite wisdom. Operational experience and extensive training is irrelevant in the light of such omniscience. Shame what has happened to the rather good MP net. If you have to resort to "because I said so" and "don't yo...
- 10 Jul 2023, 18:53
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
4,000m is the max with LWCLU. 4,750m is achievable from a vehicle mount. The seeker head of the missile still has low resolution though, unless you're firing one of the exceptionally expensive brand new G variants. Like I said, related to the CLU rather than the missile. The G model is listed as be...
- 10 Jul 2023, 18:12
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
To be blunt, you don't have a clue. On paper, all these things are nice to have. Trigat should have been game changing, the design house said it was and swallowed over 100m doing so. Same design house for Akeron. I bring you back to my original point. On a modern contested battlefield, you dont hav...
- 09 Jul 2023, 19:31
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Section Infantry Weapons
- Replies: 1491
- Views: 437753
Re: Section Infantry Weapons
personally I think we should make the jump to 6.8 X 51mm in 2030. Yes, you've been quite clear. I however, remain cautious about the success of US small arms programmes. If the US gets it into service and proven in use, then I'd consider trialling it, dependent on a whole bunch of conditions such a...
- 09 Jul 2023, 19:26
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
My point is entirely tactical and from extensive experience with Milan and other systems. It's either the way you are putting it across or that aspects of your experience are obsolete. The former was brilliant, the precursor to MMP (Trigat MR) was not. How much does TRIGAT, a beam riding CLOS missi...
- 09 Jul 2023, 18:54
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
There is no such thing as Javelin ER....the follow on is Javelin F/G which is entering service now. Its far more expensive and shorter ranged than MMP.... Increase in range of the Javelin seems to be associated with the command launch unit rather than the missile variant, and, at 4.5km it isn't vas...
- 09 Jul 2023, 14:49
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
I think guided artillery rounds with fire direction form UAV will replace long range non autonomous ATGM (is Brimstone/Spear/Exactor). Brimstone is autonomous. Brimstone 2 has semi-active laser guidance in addition to the MMW seeker. Exactor/Spike NLOS will probably retain a niche due to their accu...
- 08 Jul 2023, 22:16
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
My point is that in a contested environment, fire direction is linear in order to limit counter fire. Historically, fire direction is linear because of the limitations of the guidance. Fire and forget was developed as technology improved as it permits your firing team to displace and for the missil...
- 08 Jul 2023, 10:18
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
Ukraine's experience would beg to differ. Integrated ATGM fire teams stopped at least 2 corps level units with artillery support. They we fire and forget with integrated fire and manouver. Beg to differ with what? That the Akeron can use it's mid-course guidance to engage targets that cannot be see...
- 06 Jul 2023, 22:32
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
Having fired Milan, I am familiar with SACLOS. My point is, any mid course corrections are difficult in a firefight, artillery barrage, or shoot and relocate evolutions. My point was that it isn't SACLOS. Or MCLOS or any other flavour of CLOS. If you are in an area of operations with no cover then ...
- 06 Jul 2023, 21:18
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
- Replies: 118
- Views: 43674
Re: Javelin Anti-Tank Missile (British Army)
Man in the loop only works if you have stable firing platform and reliable comm link. Current seeks have home on jam which renders some of the IR jammers irrelevant. On a modern battlefield, the luxury of firing and then performing in flight correction is a luxury only if you have a standoff range ...
- 05 Jul 2023, 19:43
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Section Infantry Weapons
- Replies: 1491
- Views: 437753
Re: Section Infantry Weapons
Depends on the armour.
Velocity can also defeat the bullet
- 02 Jul 2023, 10:09
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 148856
Re: The future form of the Army
http://img.bemil.chosun.com/site/data/i ... 1528_2.jpgmrclark303 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 02:05 I'm not following you there Sol, M270 isn't deployable by air, HIMARS is far more flexible....
I'm guessing they've repurposed this M270 as an airport tug?
- 01 Jul 2023, 13:38
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: The future form of the Army
- Replies: 665
- Views: 148856
Re: The future form of the Army
The Army needs to be reorganised along USMC lines in my opinion, air deployable battle groups with an excess of modern firepower. We don't have the airlift to sustain a combat capable battlegroup, so we'd be better having some air deployable formations that can be supported by our airforce while th...
- 27 Jun 2023, 23:07
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
- Replies: 2432
- Views: 535168
Re: Ajax Armoured Vehicles (British Army)
Tests on the BvS 210 garnered a maximum of 104db(A) (357 seconds). If anyone knows of any other examples that would be interesting. Quoting myself, I know, but I found some more examples: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA446765.pdf An M113A2 and an engineering vehicle based on it, registering over...
- 23 Jun 2023, 15:41
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
- Replies: 4067
- Views: 975029
- 23 Jun 2023, 11:35
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
- Replies: 4067
- Views: 975029
Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
But extremely easy to conclude that copying the F-35 program would not be smart. I don't think it's so trivial. In the first place you have to define which aspects of the F-35 programme are problematic. Otherwise your recommendation to avoid copying F-35 becomes, in the limit "F-35 was a plane...
- 21 Jun 2023, 21:38
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
- Replies: 2809
- Views: 734244
Re: Boxer / Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV)
This is a better view from the side, looks like the wing mirrors have been removed. The remote weapons station seems quite high off the ground. Pretty common, if not to avoid shooting them directly, I don't imagine that the muzzle blast does anything good for them either. The article mentions that ...