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by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 13:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

May be so, but then it was not designed as a dedicated CSG/TAPS escort! It was designed as a GLOBAL COMBAT SHIP, capable of (if not mainly) singleton deployments. One of unintended consequences the cut in T26 numbers “to save money” has left expensively outfitted ships, that in practice may be rest...
by donald_of_tokyo
26 Feb 2024, 15:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

All depend on what to be tasked. River OPV can handle ARCIMS MCM USV, 6t weight, with 3t cargo. But, of course, not good at. Just it. T26 can also handle ARCIMS MCM USV as well. I understand its mission bay is actually designed so…….T31? No idea. It is NOT designed to carry ARCIMS system. Of course...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

... MCMs have historically always had a secondary Patrol role. The “P” bit was always covered as they had a radar, a gun and the ability to launch boats. It seems pretty stupid not to keep this secondary role unless we are going fully unarmed civilian motherships, at which point you might as well c...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 15:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Rivers can’t, t26 shouldn’t nor should t31 the paper I linked for new guy explains why. https://www.bmt.org/media/3054/rina-warship-2018-aitken-mcm-paper.pdf All depend on what to be tasked. River OPV can handle ARCIMS MCM USV, 6t weight, with 3t cargo. But, of course, not good at. Just it. T26 can...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 12:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

T31 carrying two unmanned Pacific 9.5 (and one RHIB), and T26 carrying 2 RHIB and 2 ARCIMS looks just fine. Actually, if the crane remains, T31 can add a few RHIB or unmanned Pacific 9.5 on the mid deck. Also, T26 hangar can accommodate third ARCIMS, while retaining 2 RHIBs. But I think T31's boat b...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 11:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Babcock guy stated that they are 9.5 m boat bays. (in the middle of the article)

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/babcocks-arr ... 31-frigate
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 03:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

10 SeaSense USV systems will be covering 5 important ports/channels 24/7. I wouldn't believe so, at least not with as few as 10 USV's. I you look at project wilton (Navylookout source) ...Wilton is equipped with 3 boats that can carry REMUS 100 and 600 small-medium UUVs, Side-scan sonars and M500 R...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Feb 2024, 15:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Archer Class Patrol & Training Vessel (PBR) (RN)
Replies: 133
Views: 61922
Japan

Re: Archer Class Patrol & Training Vessel (PBR) (RN)

- "a SeaClass would be a bad choice". Why? If we take off the "training cabin" from SeaClass 15, it can be virtually a larger brother of ARCIMS USV. It can be used as USVs in war time by adding the same remote control system, and do the real job elsewhere around Britain and UK's...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Feb 2024, 12:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Another option, Atlas Sea Sense (for ships) https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/fileadmin/user_upload/01_Images/Solutions/SeaSense/SeaSense_Brochure_Feb2023.pdf and Atlas UK ARCIMS Sea Sense (USV) https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/fileadmin/user_upload/01_Images/Solutions/ARCIMS/ARCIMS_SeaSense_Brochure...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Feb 2024, 01:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

CAPTAS-4 compact also has their own option which simultaneously replaces CAPTAS-2 because it is the same size. I believe CAPTAS-4 Compact has the same capability as old CAPTAS-4 and as such normal CAPTAS-4 production has ended. Here it is containerised: https://youtu.be/Ve9IzYRyOfo?si=mEkkfNZ9EmRyr...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 15:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5492
Views: 1556820
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Tamar just left Auckland NZ. Comparison with RNZN OPV is interesting. Although HMS Tamar is not a ship to fight, it look more fighty than RNZN OPVs, which looks more bulky. https://youtu.be/2JMgaw7g8pM?t=13 PS.1 RN OPV being a frequent visitor to NZ is very good. Also, HMS Tamar steaming at sea ...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 12:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

ULTRA 20-ft container ASW system. I think he is talking about Sea Lancer and its 2nd-Gen. As it is "single tow", it is very simple. May be not as capable as CAPTAS-4 (independent tow), but handling-system simplicity will be essential in "man-power limited" navy. For example, I t...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 12:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5492
Views: 1556820
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Tamar, now in NZ. - RNZN frigate has just test-fired 2 CAMMs. The frigates also as SeaSentor torpedo defense kits. So, yes NZ has a good commonality with RN. - I really hope HMS Tamar crew take a visit of HMNZS Otago and Wellington, the two OPV now in extended readiness because of lack of crew. ...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 10:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

ULTRA 20-ft container ASW system. I think he is talking about Sea Lancer and its 2nd-Gen. As it is "single tow", it is very simple. May be not as capable as CAPTAS-4 (independent tow), but handling-system simplicity will be essential in "man-power limited" navy. For example, I th...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 16:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

But OPVs also contributes to show presence. Has an impact. Of course, it is not as much as an escort. Considering the huge huge difference in resource needed to do it, this is very natural. No one is saying an OPV can have the same influence as an escort. No argument.
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5492
Views: 1556820
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Active, every where.

by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 15:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5492
Views: 1556820
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 15:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Diplomacy is basically broken down to how much money where does it go and what do I get in return. The law of economic warfare. Diplomacy is done by the diplomatic staff at the embassies across the world that presence is permanent where the decision makers are. If you don’t get what you want the co...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 13:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It isn't an obsession it is realty five are on order to replace the five T23 GP. The T31 isn't mediocre it provides a platform that is inherently easy to maintain, requires lower crewing and provides great range and capability cost effectively. It can scale from a more than competent light frigate ...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 12:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Soft power is a fiction. A fiction perpetuated by this government and its many shades since Blair, based on it playing nice in the media. There is economic power and there is military power. If China comes along and offers 10 new power stations on very east terms to Bangladesh or a nice new 500m do...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Feb 2024, 12:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What do you mean by meaningful mass are you referring to combat mass as I do believe that the RB2's could being meaningful mass in terms of low level yet important roles and even war roles like mine laying and making up numbers in convoy groups Thanks for right question. I totally agree "RB2's...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Feb 2024, 12:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

https://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.com/2024/02/a-tale-of-two-royal-navys-ambitious.html?m=1 Looking at all the past RAN plan, the ambition will never be met. But, cutting 2 ANZAC will be solid, 6 remaining. Along with 3 Hobert class and 6 T26RAN, 4-6 light frigates shall be there, at most. I shall ...
by donald_of_tokyo
21 Feb 2024, 08:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What I am saying is that, OPV+ is OPV+, will not add any mass on war fighting assets. If RN want more OPV immediately, it is easy: lease RNZN Otago-class OPVs (now both are in reserve ( because of lack of crew )) for 2-3 years. We know there are a few Irish OPVs also, waiting for their crew . In sh...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Feb 2024, 15:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

...Firstly the RAN has established that more mass is required and that overall tonnage is not necessarily mass. RN must do the same. The RAN have also concluded that Hunter is too expensive and too slow. RN came to that conclusion years ago. Will Canada now follow? The RAN have reorganised their pr...
by donald_of_tokyo
20 Feb 2024, 15:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19402
Views: 9736902
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

More T31 "as is", is what you are saying, I felt. No corvette nor OPV+. Any warship with so-so AAW and "57mm and 40mm" guns and a helicopter hangar is very similar to T31, and introducing new design will not be justified, I think. Why are people obsessed with replacing OPVs that...