Ron5 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 12:47 It's not like they are getting in the way of the hundreds of workers swarming all over the ship.

No Bob had to stop and show them around

…Something more in line with the M10 Booker or the Japanese Type 10 (i.e 40-50 tons)……The Ajax and Boxer both also are not on the light side. The CH3 is just a stopgap and recent events have clearly shown the continued versatility of the MBT. However that doesn’t necessarily require a CH4. IMO an u...

I can flip that why have you jumped to the conclusion that we don't . Frigates and fleet carriers have there own job to do we can't alway rely on them being able to undertake secondary roles or that we will have the second carrier fit for duty. I do agree some op's can be undertaken as you laid out...

With the Challenger 3 being reduced in number reportedly due to lack of operable Challenger 2s to upgrade I've not seen this, where have you? Thanks. As with all things Military it's hard to say for sure but it was reported we only had 157 workable Challenger 2 tanks currently, and the 148 number s...

In Fact all 3 are needed we are now getting an idea of what the FCF is looking to do which is dispersed battle group op's using 12 man team by air and sea this will require a aviation centred MRSS with a dock… I don’t know how you’ve jumped to the conclusion that we need a MRSS - helicopters from a...

Before dismissing such a group the consideration must be what can a modernised ARG actually achieve? We need to start with what is the requirement in a UK context, and then decide what it needs to do. Is it to launch brigade level amphibious operations? Is it to transport large formations or troops...

Before that, why does the U.K. require two active CVFs if only ~2.2% GDP is being spent on defence? … Sorry, but this is a completely incoherent argument - the requirement is the multitude of the requirements that we’ve discussed many many times already - they are extremely flexible floating power ...

The ultimate guarantor of nato is the nuclear umbrella and that will remain. The response to nibbles or testing along its border more interesting and why Baltic states in particular are extremely nervous. It’s the political leadership and command elements most missing without the US you saw that in...

in fact no one has come back with good reason as why a flat top LPD would be a bad move nothing wrong with a flattop, it is literally a zero cost option vis-a-vis any other configuiration of amphib - provided all other core tasks are accomodated. that is not to say that you can anything useful with...

…my answer to that is I’m not sure they are crucial it can be done without them. They can’t be excluded from the discussion, RN literally revolves around them now. Finding an operating model that is both affordable and sustainable is crucial. If RN doesn’t do that a CVF will be in extended readines...

…my answer to that is I’m not sure they are crucial it can be done without them. They can’t be excluded from the discussion, RN literally revolves around them now. Finding an operating model that is both affordable and sustainable is crucial. If RN doesn’t do that a CVF will be in extended readines...

I don’t want to turn this into another discussion about aircraft carriers… Fair, and don’t want to kick off the same circular discussions either. What I would add though is that I see a CVF as “4 acres of floating sovereign territory” - it should be seen in the same way as any forward operating air...

I don’t want to turn this into another discussion about aircraft carriers… Fair, and don’t want to kick off the same circular discussions either. What I would add though is that I see a CVF as “4 acres of floating sovereign territory” - it should be seen in the same way as any forward operating air...

How would having more sqn with fewer aircraft mean more pilots? Problem with creating more Sqns is it requires more people, where do all these people come from? You seem to be a bod in the know how low does it take to turn a jet around for line maintenance Line maintenance? I take that to mean betw...

How would having more sqn with fewer aircraft mean more pilots? Problem with creating more Sqns is it requires more people, where do all these people come from? You seem to be a bod in the know how low does it take to turn a jet around for line maintenance Line maintenance? I take that to mean betw...

There is another way 3 x 16 = 1 OCU & 2 FL Sqn's = 48 plus 4 for the TEU leaves 22 in Deep maintenance this could allow a standard peace time carrier deployment of 16 jets or a war time deployment of upto 32 It is already decided that there will be (at least) 3 frontline squadrons and 3rd Squad...

topman wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 11:39 How would having more sqn with fewer aircraft mean more pilots?

Problem with creating more Sqns is it requires more people, where do all these people come from?

You seem to be a bod in the know how low does it take to turn a jet around for line maintenance

Perms of 48, take your pick: 1x18 + 3x10 1x18 + 2x12 + 1x6 1x16 + 2x12 + 1x8 1x14 + 2x12 + 1x10 You are missing TEU which currently has 4 planes. If I am not wrong, original plan was to have 3 previously deployed to US to be upgraded to TR-3 and sent to UK while 17 Squadron would get 3 new planes. ...

Have you noticed that when a fastjet squadron deploys as a squadron they go with 8 jets be they tornado, typhoon, or f35 even though there peace time compliment is 12. For intense operations they may add 1 or 2 additional jets for fwd deployed maintenance spares. The problem with comparing what the...

Sweden purchases 321 6x6 Patria vehicles https://www.patriagroup.com/newsroom/news/2024/sweden-purchases-over-300-armoured-vehicles-from-patria Somebody should tell MOD\DE&S about this value for money purchase. Said this sometime back but as we have funding for 1000 Boxers maybe we should stop ...

Well I would say we need to get away from the Norm that the RAF operate as these jets are and should be for the Carriers firstly given a front line number of 59 the aim should be to deploy 20 jets to the duty carrier meaning that when jets/ Sqn's are not deployed to a carrier they should be in main...

I recall seeing a defence committee hearing where then ACM Wigston stated that ~ 20% of the entire fleet should be expected to be in deep maintenance i.e. of planned 74 ~ 59-60 would be front line strength I also think that Marham only has the infrastructure for 4 sqns i.e. 1 OCU + 3 frontline. All...

I would say the LHA mode would be a natural default configuration for a CVF. This for me is something in the region of a sqd of 8-12 F35s, 6 AEW/ASW Merlins, 8 Commando Merlins, 3 Chinooks and 4 Wildcats, plus two companies of RMs. The problem you have with this default position is other than the c...

4 squadrons would probably required some 80 to 90 planes, even with 10 planes per squadron. 74 would mean 3 squadrons. Considering which one will be raised, I expect to be from RAF. Still choosing some currently inactive squadron between 201 to 217, 209 for example, it could still keep strong conne...

For me, it should be 892 NAS without a doubt. It should be four squadrons of 9 a/c like the harriers had IMO. I agree however I would go with 4 x Sqn's with 10 jets plus a OCU with 16 making 56 jets leaving 18 jets in the pool This could mean under a full effort we could have 30 jets on one carrier...