Russia meanwhile is appealing to both sides for a ceasefire...

Oh and BTW this 'most extreme type of terrain' is the one Russian armoured forces will take advantage of to manoeuvre over and outflank ! By the same argument, our MBT are strategically slow, so a wheeled vehicle much more capable of strategic lift and self-deploy to the front. Gaining the firm gro...

Oh and BTW this 'most extreme type of terrain' is the one Russian armoured forces will take advantage of to manoeuvre over and outflank ! By the same argument, our MBT are strategically slow, so a wheeled vehicle much more capable of strategic lift and self-deploy to the front. Gaining the firm gro...

What's the appeal of the Pandur? US Special Forces use it. Yes, I know that, but on paper it appears to be unremarkable. I'm interested to know why it's preferred over say a Canadian AVGP? Or even Bushmaster for that matter. At 13 t it's a mountain pony ... but has other limitations: https://www.bb...

We'll see if Warrior CSP gets cancelled and replaced by a Boxer IFV variant. Why on earth would one cancel Warrior to replace it with a heavy wheeled vehicle that can't accompany and support Challenger over difficult retain? The French have done it. The assumed mobility of Boxer is that it will be ...

Jensy wrote: How about turning the the 205 PMRS variants (Ares/Athena) on order into a turreted 'Ares IFV',

Athena (C2) has a higher roofline.

Lord Jim wrote:

RunningStrong wrote:What's the appeal of the Pandur?

US Special Forces use it.

Yes, I know that, but on paper it appears to be unremarkable. I'm interested to know why it's preferred over say a Canadian AVGP? Or even Bushmaster for that matter.

Ron5 wrote:Would look good on UK JLTV's. Maybe with the British Venom gun & LMM/Starstreak.

Put that on a JLTV and the politicians will start calling it a tank. Bad move for the army budget.

Ron5 wrote:

madhon wrote:

Ron5 wrote:

ArmChairCivvy wrote:

SD67 wrote:M1, Lynx, Boxer, Bushmaster, Hawkei, G-Wagen

Bushmaster wasn't the first choice of the UK SF

What was UK SF first choice ? the US AGMS Pandur ?

I believe so.

What's the appeal of the Pandur?

ArmChairCivvy wrote:

military wrote:I presume the turrets get new armour as the turrets will be newly manufactured

Would think so, esp. as armour development proceeds at pace

Why can't the new turret just be configured to take whatever applique is latest and greatest?

An interim on what turret? Which one has already been fitted, tested, integrated, and is ready to manuacture en masse? Not a turret, Kongsberg Protector RWS. So a single missile and a 50 cal. Not even what most people have had since the 90s... To be fair, the idea that a medium weight vehicle would...

Julian Nettlefold has claimed "WCSP would be replaced by another variant of Boxer with a Rafael CT40 or 30mm customised turret as chosen by Lithuania." This Israeli turret is unmanned so it wouldn't impact the number of dismounts in the Boxer infantry version. See the brochure below. http...

RetroSicotte wrote: An interim on what turret? Which one has already been fitted, tested, integrated, and is ready to manuacture en masse?

Not a turret, Kongsberg Protector RWS.

military wrote:Julian Nettlefold, the editor of Battlespace magazine, has gone on the record with some of the problems with Ajax and Warrior. I placed the Warrior quotes in the Warrior thread here on the site.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writte ... /9638/pdf/

Thank you for that, it was a good laugh!

Your behavior fits the profile of a phony (words chosen carefully). You robustly deny facts and opinions of others yet offer nothing in return that would give you any more credibility than a casual internet warrior. Your few and infrequent "facts" like contract details can easily be found...

We're even told the British Army advised Australia not to select Ajax. But a British Army standard CV90, you bet there would be exports. And you here you have it, the epitome of what's wrong with this forum. A Twitter rumour is regurgitated as fact, and to top it off an unfounded statement of fact ...

mr.fred wrote:Why would you want to maintain the MBT capability when you also want to cancel the IFVs?

Probably the same logic that saw us purchasing aircraft carriers with minimal aircraft and escorts. Headlines over logic.

@RunningS Judging by your emotional reaction I assume you are in someway connected to the Ajax program. By the same line of thought, you would think many detractors of the AJAX programme had lost their wives to a mythical man of Greece. There's a lot of armchair procurement managers that seem to fo...

Well I learn something everyday runningstrong , didn't know they cancelled program ,why? thought they were the tank to compete with or was it spin or was it just cost ,ie they couldn't afford it ? Not to deviate too much from the thread, and not to speculate too much but... The concept was reasonab...

With all this challenger tank poss upgrade programme and/or cuts to the fleet all trying to combat /match the Russian armata tank costing £2.9 million each , wouldn't it be cheaper just to buy a load of them saving loads :lol: (tongue in cheek folks) You mean the T14 Armata that the Russians have c...

1. Many years late, many millions over budget. If you think they're meeting the terms of their original contract, you might be the only person in the UK that does. Late to which original contract? Development? Production? Extended Support Contract and on-shoring? 2. Bae spent 50 million of its own ...

Remind me again how GD and LM have failed hard on those programmes? And this idea that CV90 was a OTS product continues to make everyone in industry laugh. Doesn't have a production CT40 turret, doesn't have a fully digital turret on market, doesn't have a fully digital hull. The MOD created a gold ...

What you're seeing is the firing gases hitting upward flowing air. It's not venting firing gases. What about powering the RWS etc. I am not sure if the Ajax family have auxiliary generators enabling systems to be powered whilst the main power unit is switched off like some AFVs do. AJAX vehicles hav...

Andy-M wrote:Why is there a fume extractor for an external weapon?

What makes you think there is?

RetroSicotte wrote:That youtuber is notoriously inaccurate with their data and has been called out several times in the past. No better than Matsimus.

I'm pretty sure Matsimus just reads Wikipedia pages!