new guy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023, 11:29 It does with MK54.

HAAWC has entered IOC but only a handful have been produced to date...it took 10 years for it to arrive. Other aspects of high altitude ASW are yet to be delivered...

tomuk wrote: ↑01 Dec 2023, 20:40 On P8 because it flies higher than Nimrod you can't just drop the torpedo it needs wings.

And yet 10 years after P-8's IOC it still does not have that capability...

Wow actually a sound and sensible decision! Truth is it never made any sense to use Mk.54. It seriously underperforms compared to Stingray Mod 1, and torpedo's are massively expensive....we've got literally hundreds of Stingray in stock already...with T26 not getting MTLS we've got huge numbers of ...

Wow actually a sound and sensible decision! Truth is it never made any sense to use Mk.54. It seriously underperforms compared to Stingray Mod 1, and torpedo's are massively expensive....we've got literally hundreds of Stingray in stock already...with T26 not getting MTLS we've got huge numbers of ...

G White wrote: ↑30 Nov 2023, 13:13 Not seen this before - Stingray for Poseidon

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/ra ... don-fleet/

The interesting thing will be if a wing kit is developed for it....

I think it's time to start looking at the delivery times of F-35 vs tempest. Tempest with deliveries starting 2035, how quickly will our F-35B Batch 2 order arrive? Is the +27 jets worth it? Used as delay overlap? Batch 3? Larger Batch 2? All important questions. I don't put this against tempest, j...

Is that Saab's way if saying UK mod should have chosen Saab instead of Boeing, 😂 Think they're well aware that that ship has sailed, as has NATO's fleet replacement. But...there is the potential of a couple of sales for the Scandinavia/Baltic region as a joint fleet..Poland will inevitably get Glob...

Finally a clear, up close, look at the CAMM installation.

new guy wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 14:36 what need is there for 127mm for NZ?

They already operate it so they could just transfer the guns over. No need for new gun, training etc.

*[action]* zoom in on the different VLS *[/end.action]* It's 3 x standalone ExLS, for 9 cells total. With quadpacking that will be 36 missiles. With 5 Visby Class, test missiles and small number of reloads/spares its likely the Swedish Navy's order will be for at least 250 missiles. With more to co...

Earlier today MBDA published some news....then later withdrew and said it was a mistake.....sounds like they pushed the publish button a little too soon....contract signed with Swedish FMV...suspect they need to announce to Parliament first... Looks like CAMM for Sweden....on the Visby Class... Ther...

Just to note that that article is by Justin Bronk....

The UK's David Axe...

I doubt the line will close anytime soon. Deliveries to Qatar have only just started. Plus 38 for Germany and 20 for Spain. The RAF could use a small tranche 4 buy to keep things ticking over, money allowing The final assembly will after Qatar. But the operation delivering components will continue,...

Looks like 3rd Seperate Assault Brigade have managed to get an ex-British Army CET on the secondhand market...

I wonder if it was this one...

https://tanks-alot.co.uk/product/combat ... actor-cet/

Sweden has a long reputation for selling weapons to anyone with a big enough wallet. And Sweden too might become a new Germany, if they have a veto right about Tempest... Sweden are not in Tempest/GCAP. In fact their membership in the wider FCAS technology programme is pretty much on hold at present.

We also need to take into account that Brimstone will be used by land vehicles in the overwatch role so the extra 2500 to 3000 could have been dished out to the brigades 500 each Correct. The order would have needed an extra production line set up as well. MBDA already have the capability to produc...

Absolute insanity. This decision is so wrongheaded it requires urgent explanation as to why the Industrial strategy for UKPLC was circumvented in this way. If there is a plausible explanation why not share it with the taxpayers? They will claim risks around integration, particularly now the whole '...

SD67 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 23:16 Don't rationalise

They, France, came from 10 down and won

Too many unproductive people on the payroll here

Luckily for Tempest those unproductive people will all be on the other side....

new guy wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 22:43 We could have gotten 15,000 brimstone for that price.
This is MoD vileness embodied.

Brimstone isn't that cheap....

It would have been 6,000 missiles instead of 3,000....

What happens when you don’t pony up the £70m to integrate brimstone you sign up to a $1 billion dollar order for munitions from America. Industrial strategy in action. https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press%20Release%20-%20UK%2022-68%20CN_0.pdf WASHINGTON, October 23, 2023 - The State D...

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023, 12:41 Getting closer.

See my post on the FCASW thread...the anti-shipping part might not arrive until 2034...

wargame_insomniac wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 19:01 I guess Land Attack Cruise Missiles are simpler in that their target does nt move!!
Be interesting to see how this now 3-way development of the two missiles works out.

Thats the thing...I wouldn't be surprised if it had some moving target capability with its dual seeker...and data link.

Interesting snippet in post 2 from the Italians. Land attack FCASW is expected in 2028. The anti-ship variant is not expected until 2034. How this plays out is anyones guess...Land Attack must mean the subsonic, stealthy version. But what do they mean by anti-ship? Do they mean purely the supersonic...

Of course history suggests that any aircraft that tries to do everything often doesn't at much but if it comes to fruition it could be interesting. PGM's, podded recon and EW solutions and modern avionics completely changed that paradigm. A single platform can be a superb fighter, bomber, recon and...

It's all moving in the right direction...

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/air- ... ce-budget/