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Griffon Marine (Formerly Griffon Hoverwork) have released their new website, complete with the reveal of their Commando Insertion Craft design, and it's fantastic.

Why do they also have CRC on there site, did they buy hollyhead marine?
https://griffonmarinesolutions.com/media ...

know im dreaming here but with the new B-21 having F-35 engines etc etc look at buying 6 for long range anti shiping nuc role etc etc give them to 617 sqn ( be perfect for falklands black buck style raids) ........ then got the f-35b's up to 4 sqn for the fleet air arm. Gives the airfore a new toy ...

I am, and intentionally (Apart from the second mast).
T83 will need lots of power generation!

That's what, 8 diesel generators? Surely it would be better to mix an MT30 or two in there somewhere!
6 40mms is also a, well, unique design choice, but justifiable in the current security environment ...

My AH160 concept:

Aren't you duplicating the funnels as well as the second mast?
I'm trying out Shipbucket for the first time at the moment, will have finished my kitbash AH170 by this evening hopefully.

I am, and intentionally (Apart from the second mast).
T83 will need lots of power ...

My AH160 concept:

I don't know, 20 more meters is a lot more generators, boat bay's and VLS.

It is also a lot of length/beam ratio not included in the original structural calculations, both in terms of hydrodynamic forces and strength of the ship.

I agree, but AH140 + 20m may just form the framework for ...

This argument is getting boring, let's start a new one. I've been thinking about the throwaway comment in the Naval News article:
Babcock is studying an enlarged Type 31 derivative known as Arrowhead 160
Firstly, a 160m long 'stretch' of AH140 is a ridiculous idea, pointless.

I don't know, 20 ...

cyrilranch wrote: 07 Jun 2025, 10:46
Is there a short cut in reply box to cutout the previous message s ,so only the latest one is shown?

Just highlight all the text of previous conversations apart from the one you are directly replying to and delete it.

Ron5 wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 13:36
Also, AH160??

there is a AH160?

MQ-9B STOL doesn't require a catapult.

Mojave didn't, but a fully laden MQ9-B?


Video published by naval news today:
So for this aircraft we're able to change out the wings and tail and provide the ability to take off these smaller ships without having put a catapult or landing gear on the ...

If anything "capable of being fired from the deck” makes me think that they are talking about some form of drone/ missile that can be launched by the "lightweight" EM catapult that they seem to be contemplating (or possibly under it's own power, though that seems less likely)
Possibly multiple ...

Weak endorsement in the SDR for GCAP. Left the door wide open for it to be cancelled and the UK either buying F-47 or joining FCAS as a very junior partner. I'm sure Starmer would love to use it's cancellation as a "bargaining chip".

I disagree.
GCAP was actually mentioned relatively a lot for ...

https://twitter.com/gabriel64869839/status/1927705615406596149?s=61&t=-w58-AqEK8dlq02bHexwZA

If we equipped our mlrs with PrSM or equivalent maybe in development with Australia and developed the capability with a400m to move anything from battery to regiment you could have the army offering a ...

well was hoping some sort of puma replacement would have been mentioned today

Today was not an updated equipment plan, other than mentioning a few high-end items. Equipment plans/details to follow in the autumn.

According to MP Singh Dhesi, head of the defence committee, that paper is coming ...

I know there was talk of 24 F35b, but would of thought that would of been one of the first promo pictures released with 24 on deck as a statement ..... or have missed it :oops:

It hasn't happened yet, I think it will be on the return leg of the journey when we have had additional F-35B ...

IMHO T-7 wouldn't be that bad if it will be a licenced build made in belfast by Spirit Aerosystems.
Boeing UK as design lead and Saab providing a large portion.
Give work to an unstable large division of the UK aerospace industry,
In an under-invested nation of the UK.

https://www.planephotos.net/photos/20094_Aermacchi-M-345-HET_CPX624.jpg

That's the reheated SIAI-Marchetti S.211 ***cough*** Aermacchi ***cough*** Leonardo M-345 demonstrator.

Been told that Leonardo is pitching both the -346 and the -345 as a total training solution to the UK.

Flyaway prices ...

Herc15 wrote: 01 Jun 2025, 19:00 Noticed the M-345 demonstrator (CP.X.624) flew into Boscome Down Friday 30th. Possibly evaluation as a hawk replacement?

M-345 not M-346?

What really makes me wonder is the position of the 2 tarps in the middle. If we assume the space for the Mk 41 to be in the same position as in the IH, then the 2 tarps are smack in the middle of this area, so blocking and further space for a MK 41

Yes, that's why it's hard to have a mixed ...

missile trunk

What the heck is that??? Don't answer. I know you've made it up.


Missile trunk I call the empty space reserved for the installation of the 4 Mk41 cells which goes down 3 decks.

If you have a better designation, please go ahead - on problem with that

Don't bother with him ...

What really makes me wonder is the position of the 2 tarps in the middle. If we assume the space for the Mk 41 to be in the same position as in the IH, then the 2 tarps are smack in the middle of this area, so blocking and further space for a MK 41

Yes, that's why it's hard to have a mixed ...

What really makes me wonder is the position of the 2 tarps in the middle. If we assume the space for the Mk 41 to be in the same position as in the IH, then the 2 tarps are smack in the middle of this area, so blocking and further space for a MK 41

Yes, that's why it's hard to have a mixed ...

This shit:


The naval architects stated the foundations for MK41 are only in the middle.


Otherwise known as stating an opinion as fact.

Means every time you state something, I have to waste my time chasing up to see if it is indeed true.

Obviously this is a hot button for me.......


You ...