Not entirely sure the cam wrap suits typhoon Only bad taste is that ZJ913 isn't long for this world before heading to the 'breaker's yard' for RTP. Much like her neighbouring sister, ZJ914 or Blackjack. Instead we're paying Draken Europe for a capability we could have done in-house, with what would...

If MROSS-2 and MHC-LSV's core crew is to come from RFA. I fear it’s worse and these plus MROSS-1 / MHC-OSV will also need to be RN crewed also to have any chance of getting a sustainable tanker / solid stores replenishment fleet. Makes the most sense. Combined the actual specialist crews with RN co...

I am not convinced that this will happen where is the money ? https://twitter.com/FTusa284/status/1781969054216904805 That claim is something I would put as incorrect. He is misquoting the NAO report: Part-funded programmes included in the Plan MROSS, T32, MRSS, T83, and Future Air Dominance System...

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑21 Apr 2024, 19:25

Jensy wrote: ↑21 Apr 2024, 16:24 Unless MRSS has been substantially more developed than has been made public, I can't see any Gordon Brown style 'final act' with an iron clad contract to force the next government's hand.

The £500m in the original article was interesting.

Where in the article

https://twitter.com/Gabriel64869839/status/1782012583261692134 Royal Navy known ship procurement needs ahead: - 2nd Multi Role Ocean Surveillance Ship (purpose built, Deep Water Data Gathering - effectively replacement for HMS Scott) . Custom and relatively small project so could theoretically be co...

...Thanks, so your proposal is to make an expensive AAW version of T31. Integrating SeaViper system into TACTICOS CMS will cost a lot. Adding the required CMS analyses power will cost a lot. And, integrating Aster-30 missile into Mk41 VLS will cost (or your proposal is to locate Sylver A50 VLS in p...

Repulse wrote: ↑21 Apr 2024, 10:12

Assume that is Argus getting replenished?

I believe it is Argus giving replenishment

It would be logical for the RN to procure a new or suitable existing radar of excellent quality that could be fitted on T26, T31, QEC, T83, if T83 will being going in the direction of numerous AAW hulls rather than a select few.

Didn’t know Argus could do replenishment… https://www.twitter.com/navylookout/status/1781937780655800683?s=46&t=uxMT95H5Nr9jAEmCklKdgA https://external-preview.redd.it/2OsYb3o9Rg_bixWbGfDIduSL_KCgxHqr-JSUMR3YBHk.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=14359ad3f5fd33e7594af7225eea4e4ad...

tomuk wrote: ↑21 Apr 2024, 00:18

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024, 23:39 If the U.K. needs a £10bn Iron Done system with ABM capability the 6x missing Type 45 should the main component of it.

Why not ground based?

Especially when 6 is only enough to cover CSG

Is the PM just going to announce the MRSS has entered the concept phase? The Type 32 has been in the concept phase for 18 months and it still hasn’t been funded or show any tangible signs of progression. Great for creating a headline but not exactly the urgency required when both of the UKs Amphibi...

Re Argentina purchase of 24 F-16s from Denmark are there any indications that the River Class will be upgraded so as to be able mount a defence capable of defending themselves against F-16 or will the Rivers have to be replaced by the larger slightly more capable T31 OPV. That's why there's a Typho...

How easy would it be to add SMART-L to the last three T31s? Where it is situated on the Iver Huitfeldt-class looks little changed. Cost wise it looks in the £10mns per unit so with maybe a £100mn upgrade overall. No chance to add Sampson due to the top weight. In a 2009 NAO report (link below) it s...

Lets go, finally.

tomuk wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024, 01:05

Montserrat Pop. 4300 GDP £150m
Anguilla Pop. 16,000 GDP £250m

And?

A stones through away from the BOTS of Montserrat and Anguilla.

There was loads of complete off-topic stuff about gas prices (I think - only skimmed them long enough to think WTF has this got to do with T32) I only noticed when I came back to try and quote a summary of T26 programme development woes that I put hear to find it and it wasn't here. Just asking bec...

What unmanned kit would it operate? There is no current unmanned kit for ASW. Not true https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/sea-air-space-2024/2024/04/saildrone-and-thales-australia-to-integrate-towed-array-on-usv/ https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/navdex-2023/2023/02/arcims-seasense-an-autonomo...

The Telegraph article linked to up thread for one, it uses the phase 'at least' a number of times. The article also talks about four T26 in the first batch when it is actually three and also talks about the original plan for 12 Type 26 when it was of course 13. So make of it what you will. I read i...

Here is my takeaway: Only Batch 1 would meet the timeline. The last of which HMS Belfast is already delayed. Meanwhile in France they could probably get them out far quicker and cheaper for more with FDI, while also having a much better AAW fitting. The article all of this comes from talks about fou...

tomuk wrote: ↑15 Apr 2024, 21:56

sol wrote: ↑15 Apr 2024, 21:53

serge750 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2024, 20:42 ... with the possible T26 hulls being transfered to norway ?

Just one hull actually, either Belfast (3rd) or Birmingham (4th).

Articles suggest at least one

Show where.

Rome wasn't built in a day it takes time to rebuild capability, Cammells/A&P would love the work if it is at no risk to them, SDA virtually bankrupted them again. A bit of subbing is fine, but the risk goes up the bigger the blocks are. As for Fergusons I wouldn't touch that dumpster fire with ...

Anyone else found multiple posts here deleted?

History 101 So you can't tell me how so? The RN clearly wanted all 13, and there were rumours of a £11bn price tag, the Treasury said no. Yes but it was the navy who messed up the procurement as such that the price rose to that, out of the RN's budget, so if they did ask the treasury for more then ...