Hilarious

That poor can is begging for mercy it’s been kicked so many times

" But Sir, He started it!"

Interesting one for historians Personally I think if there were no Brexit we’d be looking at a maybe 20% share in FCAS, maybe even alignment of SSNs with France ie adopting LEU. I don’t think 5 eyes would last long term given the EUs defence ambitions. EU has nothing to do with 5-eyes .... so its f...

Interesting one for historians

Personally I think if there were no Brexit we’d be looking at a maybe 20% share in FCAS, maybe even alignment of SSNs with France ie adopting LEU. I don’t think 5 eyes would last long term given the EUs defence ambitions.

Meriv9 wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 19:51 TSR2 is the Uk version of Canadian Avro C-105 Drama?

Much worse

I hope BAE and Leonardo in particular take the opportunity to integrate as much as possible on this. The combined strengths would make a formidable competitor. In my perfect world there one day be a comprehensive Anglo Italy JV company covering all air platforms.- Tempest, Helicopters, M346 - 50/50...

Zeno wrote: ↑17 Mar 2023, 12:24 Are there hopes for exports to countries and would there be similar restrictions on the codes as per the f-35

This may be something that needs to be nailed down with Japan. I'm sure Italy and BAE between them will sell anything to anyone with a free Ferrari or three thrown in.

I hope BAE and Leonardo in particular take the opportunity to integrate as much as possible on this. The combined strengths would make a formidable competitor. In my perfect world there one day be a comprehensive Anglo Italy JV company covering all air platforms.- Tempest, Helicopters, M346 - 50/50...

I hope BAE and Leonardo in particular take the opportunity to integrate as much as possible on this. The combined strengths would make a formidable competitor. In my perfect world there one day be a comprehensive Anglo Italy JV company covering all air platforms.- Tempest, Helicopters, M346 - 50/50 ...

Way too sensible for our MOD. it’s what everyone else is doing - Germany Spain now maybe Italy. The RAF may fall below a minimum viable strength while production of Temoest is still ramping up. Around 100 T2/ T3 so around 70 available at any one time and some of them will need to last to 2050+, I ca...

“Engage the silent drive!”

The USA will be supplying the missile compartments in the same way they produce them for the Dreadnoughts and highly likely to be supplying the command and control systems for it as well. PWR3 is indeed based heavily on US technology, likely would only be exportable with US consent. But you still n...

Ok, I look forward to Airbus launching its own fighter project then without any help from Dassault, they have so many transferable skills. And one of those A320 production lines is in China - any conflict of interest there? Yes people move around. I knew a fellow who moved from building Ford Falcons...

Where’s the esky mate?

Personally don’t think civil and military aircraft sit naturally in the same corporation, it’s like the Ferrari F1 team owning an HGV manufacturer. If the French go it alone then Airbus will be out of fast jet business just as BAE and SAAB are long out of civilian air. Not sure I agree with that. F...

Personally don’t think civil and military aircraft sit naturally in the same corporation, it’s like the Ferrari F1 team owning an HGV manufacturer.

If the French go it alone then Airbus will be out of fast jet business just as BAE and SAAB are long out of civilian air.

The rumor mill in Australia is that the agreement is quite detailed on this point, and the Australian government will be making a substantial cash and human capital contribution to support the increase of Virginia class production. In which case why do the Aussies need SSNR? Because they want a Sub...

When it includes all build and support costs, which makes it closer to £400mn. The first three B2 River class were £350mn including support costs (and a good dose of cost to develop new design techniques and keep a workforce busy for a period of time). It is perfectly possible to get a capable plat...

A billion in capex terms is chump change for a government. 40 million a year over a 25 year life. HMT were budgeting 40 billion for HS2 over the next 2 Years. The Airtanker PFI is I believe 13 billion.

It will be really interesting if the Spanish buy F35.

I'll put money on it, FCAS will eventually go ahead as basically french only, from about 2045, which they'll subsequently flog to India

The rumor mill in Australia is that the agreement is quite detailed on this point, and the Australian government will be making a substantial cash and human capital contribution to support the increase of Virginia class production. In which case why do the Aussies need SSNR? Because they want a Sub...

The rumor mill in Australia is that the agreement is quite detailed on this point, and the Australian government will be making a substantial cash and human capital contribution to support the increase of Virginia class production.

Here's a way out thought maybe the RN is saying ships are laid up due to crew when the real reason is the Ships them self we all know the T-23's are being nursed to the end now plus we all know the T-45's up until now are better off in port in case they brake down Now as for the Echo class they are...

Since bringing back press gangs are oh so frowned apon by the modern generation perhaps the government could consider a radical idea of increasing pays to attract recruits however tempting the idea of sending out press gangs outside some areas could be lol Well theres 60,000 people who have shown a...

Don't worry it's going to be a Virginia boat for Australia and they will stick to that design once they get a few , no matter what the announce now about SSNR,once American Virginia class infrastructure built in Australia for both countries to operate same class,be mad to change everything for SSNR...