My understanding is it was always 50/50 workshare but France arguably had more of the "noble" work.
Though given MBDA UK are flat out with CAMM family and Brimstone it wouldn't surprise me if Storm Shadow new build are mainly France.
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- 26 Apr 2024, 12:17
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: MBDA Storm Shadow Missile (RAF)
- Replies: 84
- Views: 28451
- 26 Apr 2024, 12:13
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Let's not forget the people who actually build them. Everywhere in the UK and every business sector has a shortage of skilled workers. From pharmacies to restaurants to shipyards. The only thing we have too much of is social media bloggers. We won't build more ships or crew them without a radical r...
- 25 Apr 2024, 16:17
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
I suspect the speed limit on boat 1 was first of class issues and re-generating the workforce
On Boat 2 to 3 it was / is Production facilities - non undercover working, lack of an automated plate line etc
From boat 4 onwards it should be basically limited by government cashflow
On Boat 2 to 3 it was / is Production facilities - non undercover working, lack of an automated plate line etc
From boat 4 onwards it should be basically limited by government cashflow
- 25 Apr 2024, 11:08
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Thanks for the input Ove, always good to get other aspects to a story, i hope the optimism concerning a possible buy is warranted as more T26 in the north sea can't be bad, more pluses than minuses imo The more I think about this, once the new Construction Hall is built BAE could practically double...
- 24 Apr 2024, 13:39
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9741432
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Re: my T32 idea - Yes I meant Bofors 40mm. I like it because it is the cheapest capable option, and possibly cheap enough to standardise upon across the fleet in favour of the 30mm already in use. Agreed on the "maid of all work", covering all low-end tasks. But it'll still be a milque-to...
- 24 Apr 2024, 10:38
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9741432
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
IMHO the problem is state and non state actors are blending into one,the hi/lo distinction is becoming meaningless. I wouldn't be surprised if half of these "Houthi rebels" arrived last month on a flight from Tehran. Everything is being uparmed. T45 are getting CAMM and eventually ABM. T31...
- 24 Apr 2024, 09:07
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15033
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
I hope so. Or it might be an election gimmick that gets thrown in the rubbish by the new government. Labour are making positive noises, but who knows.
- 23 Apr 2024, 16:15
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
- Replies: 2837
- Views: 781502
Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
If I were Typhoon Senior I'd be claiming paternity on the basis of that central intake alone! (Plus the tail and bubble canopy are not that dissimilar)
Related question - is there any reason the Batch 1s aren't being gathered up and offered to Ukraine for a pound?
Related question - is there any reason the Batch 1s aren't being gathered up and offered to Ukraine for a pound?
- 23 Apr 2024, 12:00
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
- Replies: 892
- Views: 324732
- 23 Apr 2024, 09:26
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15033
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
Over the next few years there are likely to be a large number of Aberdeen ex-oil industry people looking for alternative employment. Not sure how the RFA pay scales line up to their expectations however
- 22 Apr 2024, 13:10
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9741432
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
https://www.navylookout.com/snapshot-the-royal-navy-escort-fleet-in-april-2024/ Depressing situation and a reminder that we have a lot to do to get the 16 FFs/DDs (ignoring HMS Westminster) crewed and in better shape before we get excited about expansion. Somerset is a big disappointment for me - I...
- 22 Apr 2024, 06:57
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15033
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
My guesstimate - T83 will be a late 2030s story, which would align with the RAN's plans. Hobart class will only be 20ish years old in 2040. - MRSS can be integrated at Rosyth with blocks built wherever. Maybe not in the frigate factory but using part of their workforce. - FADS will leverage some pil...
- 21 Apr 2024, 18:00
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
- Views: 1870195
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
For me as said Army can have 3 Divisions with 9 Brigades 1st Division with 3 Light Mech brigades 3rd Division with 2 x Combined armed brigades 6th Division with 16AA , Rangers , 11th SFA , SF brigade The key will be the 3 Light Mech Brigades and what vehicles they have for me one of them should be ...
- 21 Apr 2024, 15:14
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6178
- Views: 1870195
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
For me as said Army can have 3 Divisions with 9 Brigades 1st Division with 3 Light Mech brigades 3rd Division with 2 x Combined armed brigades 6th Division with 16AA , Rangers , 11th SFA , SF brigade The key will be the 3 Light Mech Brigades and what vehicles they have for me one of them should be ...
- 21 Apr 2024, 10:34
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
- Replies: 112
- Views: 15033
Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
According to the Shipbuilding Strategy, the MRSS decision point is about now, though agreed, SDSR2025 will make the announcement near irrelevant https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6231b9e2e90e070ed32f18ce/_CP_605____National_Shipbuilding_Strategy_Refresh.pdf IMHO it would be hard to make...
- 21 Apr 2024, 07:55
- Forum: British Army
- Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
- Replies: 743
- Views: 202400
Re: Ground Based Air Defence
Well we have a £4bn deal to help Poland build its air defence system, surely "backward integrating " that to the UK would be an efficient place to start. If based initially on CAMM-ER then there would be a series of 80-100km "bubbles" around the country. Then add in CAM-MR to dou...
- 19 Apr 2024, 14:00
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19404
- Views: 9741432
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
I'd have thought an upgunned T31 would be very useful for dealing with Houthi drones at the moment. Free up T45 for the Carrier Group. If it's only 3 out of 5 so be it. The other two can do flag flying and maybe end up being sold to Ukraine at mates rates. Domestic license build of a T26 - never gon...
- 17 Apr 2024, 10:55
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
- Replies: 2837
- Views: 781502
Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
That is a very good point.
- 17 Apr 2024, 10:11
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
- Replies: 2837
- Views: 781502
Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
It'll be an interesting one. Airbus DE have no export success with Eurofighter. But then again Rafale has a long waiting list and Dassault don't really do local assembly. Personally I think it will come down to money, EF is still more expensive, there will need to be a major discount from list pric...
- 17 Apr 2024, 09:30
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
- Replies: 2837
- Views: 781502
Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
It'll be an interesting one. Airbus DE have no export success with Eurofighter. But then again Rafale has a long waiting list and Dassault don't really do local assembly. Personally I think it will come down to money, EF is still more expensive, there will need to be a major discount from list price...
- 16 Apr 2024, 19:19
- Forum: Royal Air Force
- Topic: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
- Replies: 2837
- Views: 781502
Re: Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
If it's Airbus (ie Germany) leading, it's a lost cause. Hopefully these mistakes are never to be repeated
- 15 Apr 2024, 21:45
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
There are only two yards that can integrate a complex warship - Scotstoun and Rosyth. And part of Rosyth is needed anyway to refit the carriers. H&W are building a diverse marine engineering business including refit, offshore wind, ferries etc. - not dependent on the MOD. Similarly Cammell/ A&am...
- 15 Apr 2024, 19:57
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
BAE are already planning on significantly compressing build time once they move into the new shed. Incorrect. Lister is on record as saying the increased efficiency is to get the ships back on the original schedule. He intimated that the one off delays Covid etc would be recovered by boat 5 and aft...
- 15 Apr 2024, 19:38
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
We've already lost Westminster of the T23ASW, and Monmouth, Montrose and v likely Argyll of the T23GPs. All before delivery of any T26 or T31. True. But would they be crewed if they hadn't been lost? The 3 x GPs will be covered by T31, all of which are scheduled to be delivered by 2030. If we've al...
- 15 Apr 2024, 18:07
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 5693
- Views: 1494301
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/15/bae-pushes-to-delay-royal-navy-frigate-to-prioritise-norway/ BAE pushes to delay Royal Navy frigate to prioritise Norway deal Bid to sell submarine-hunting warships to Norway hinges on Royal Navy accepting delays This is completely impossible the T23 ...