What a OPV+ with a 110-m long hull and a hangar can added to River B2 OPVs? 1: HMS Forth, NONE. FIGS task has a good air coverage (does NOT need a hangar). Her flight deck might be needed to "lift" the wounded rescued person on the Falkland Island SAR helicopter (but can sling). 2: HMS Med...

HMS Trent, back to action. PS Just an impression. But, River B2s "flight deck" is more and more utilized as a container deck. Of course, not always. But, is this a trend in RN? For me, River B2's flight deck is more and more "a mission deck, sometimes can be used as a flight deck"...

The hull is not where the cost is in such a vessel and the roles dictate crew numbers. If a C2 design can be built for £100mn, have a core crew of @40 and an availability of 80% I’m all ears. The River B2 OPV itself! But what capability has it got? it isn't all about cost, crew and availability, th...

MCM can be done by 2x ARCIMS from T31s large boat bays controlled by a containerised mission (undrt flight deck) deck module or (if in range, Bahrain based module)...potentially more productive than a Sandown/Hunt....ditto T26. Move on. Sorry to say. RN T31 has only three (not four) 9.5-m long boat...

The RB2 is not capable enough for a multi role forward based vessel. The T31 is too expensive and not capable enough for a multi role forward based vessel. Adding more weapons won’t help. The configuration is wrong. The MRSS will likely be too expensive for a multi role forward bass vessel in meani...

… Note that RN is now only manning 10 escorts (each with 200 souls), and one double-crewed = 2200 souls of crew (including flight). In future, RN shall man (I wish), 4 T45 (200) = 800 souls (all single crewed) 6 T26 (150) = 900 souls (all single crewed) 4 T31 (120) with 5 crew-teams = 600 souls (on...

Note that RN is now only manning 10 escorts (each with 200 souls), and one double-crewed = 2200 souls of crew (including flight). In future, RN shall man (I wish), 4 T45 (200) = 800 souls (all single crewed) 6 T26 (150) = 900 souls (all single crewed) 4 T31 (120) with 5 crew-teams = 600 souls (one-...

RN lacks man-power for foreseeable future. RN lacked man-power for these three decades. Always less than needed. So, we shall not assume there will be more man-power in future. If yes, just think it as a bonus and start "double-crewing" the assets. - RN has 6 AAW destroyers, T45. Their PIP...

….but with 4d radar a camcopter with I-Master radar and a 40mm with 3P its situational awareness and self defence goes to the next level how far would like to go and for what reason Firstly I wouldn’t do a thing to the RB2’s. IMO when the RB1’s are decommissioned they should be replaced in the U.K....

As discussed previously these conversions and drone optimised flattops will now start to widely proliferate. https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1727258534696669259 The idea that RN is only going to operate MALE STOL drones from 65,000t CVF’s is ridiculous and will become ever more ridiculous go...

Devils in the detail but it’s difficult to see what assets RN would have regularly available to do this before the T31’s replace the RB2s. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/21/britain-south-korea-north-korea-sanctions-navy-patrols/ A RN OPV is simply not suitable for the proposed deplo...

Return of Forth.

...Sorry it is very difficult for me to understand your proposal. I am SURE we cannot "lend" a man power from other navies. Never. So, the only way to make use of Waves are to lease them. Hardware can be leased, man power cannot. How on earth can you image a ship, which is commanded by Ge...

No one has said anything about them getting rid of there fleets yes the UK would give engineering support and Command in the early days however there could and should be a proper training and command program that could and would lead to better trained people across there own navies No objection. Fo...

No one has said anything about them getting rid of there fleets yes the UK would give engineering support and Command in the early days however there could and should be a proper training and command program that could and would lead to better trained people across there own navies No objection. Fo...

If we take your table the weight figures have gone up by a bigger percentage than your wing span ones have. If you google mojave and grey eagle you will notice the wing is very different and has a much bigger area. Span is not a useful comparison here. You are right. My point was, the STOVL MQ-9B w...

Can't count the river class here, they don't do RAS. 100% wrong. 3D94FF90-3DF7-44C5-98B0-4F0BCFCC98DD.jpeg Any photos of a river 2 doing it? And we don’t own the river in that photo it was sold Just did some analysis. HMS Clyde had a "triangular post with two holes" starboard of the 30 mm...

As I have said before we need to look outside the box maybe we ask the Baltic states to find 320 staff between them the Wave's could then be manned on a 1.5 scale and become NATO Tankers operating from the High North to the East coast of Africa in support of Nato operations Then, why not simply lea...

If we take your table the weight figures have gone up by a bigger percentage than your wing span ones have. If you google mojave and grey eagle you will notice the wing is very different and has a much bigger area. Span is not a useful comparison here. You are right. My point was, the STOVL MQ-9B w...

As I have said before we need to look outside the box maybe we ask the Baltic states to find 320 staff between them the Wave's could then be manned on a 1.5 scale and become NATO Tankers operating from the High North to the East coast of Africa in support of Nato operations Then, why not simply lea...

That isn’t quite correct. Lift is proportional to wing area. Weight/wing area will get you your wing loading. Takeoff speed is then proportional to the square root of your wing loading. This assumes you lift coefficient is the same ie same cross section (flaps/slates) wing angle of attack across th...

Calm down, it is: a) smaller than MQ-9B stol 3.2t vs 4.6t. Only "a bit smaller". Wingspan is 16m vs 20m. No a small difference, but easily scalable. Correction. name max-weight / wingspan Mojave 3.2t /16m MQ-9A 4.6t /20m MQ-9B 5.7t/ 24m Max weight is proportional to wingspan. As lift powe...

Calm down, it is: a) smaller than MQ-9B stol 3.2t vs 4.6t. Only "a bit smaller". Wingspan is 16m vs 20m. No a small difference, but easily scalable. b)lightened c) Weaponless. More important is here. I think, if there be a MQ-9B with new STOL wing, it will easily be operated from QE/POW C...

...Now, I really like the Holland class and would be happy to see us have something similar, but that is not really what we are talking about. If we are trying to plug the gap in escort numbers that will hit in 2028, then we need something quick to build, but with the ability to operate a heicopter...

MountsBay is LRG(N). Look like the scale is very flexible, and I think it is good.