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by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 15:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 955
Views: 310383
Japan

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Echo is slower than River B1. Larger and hence needs more maintenance. No merit as a patrol asset, I can find? Absolutely agree the B1 Rivers are faster, however the Echos were designed to operate off board systems and act as a MCM mothership. Given the larger underwater threat in UK waters from Ru...
by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 15:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Depends on your PoV - without going down another rabbit hole, my view is that the UK needs to focus on quality over mass. Outside of UK / BOT defence it needs to have capabilities that are tier one, not just replicas of most of our allies, especially given the over reliance within NATO on the US - ...
by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 14:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8413
Views: 2135358
Japan

Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

Discussion on the missile fit out is there. George knows something which we do not, or it is actually his own analysis (which shall be appreciated to some extent, he lives there and can listen to more rumors than us (or, at least me in the far east) :D ). https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-frigate-...
by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 14:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
Replies: 8413
Views: 2135358
Japan

Re: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]

That's not going to be in the water anytime soon. So 3 months late and counting. PS looks like its Bob's day to work at Govan :) It looks like June/July at the earliest. According to this story, we should be amazed at the super fast progress: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-frigate-takes-shape-...
by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 13:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 955
Views: 310383
Japan

Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

Anyone know what the Echo Class crane could handle? Appreciate the A-frame probably isn't up to the task. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/HMS_ECHO_H87.jpg/1920px-HMS_ECHO_H87.jpg Wonder how much life we could have gotten from them if the money (and crew) was there. The cra...
by donald_of_tokyo
27 Feb 2024, 13:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

May be so, but then it was not designed as a dedicated CSG/TAPS escort! It was designed as a GLOBAL COMBAT SHIP, capable of (if not mainly) singleton deployments. One of unintended consequences the cut in T26 numbers “to save money” has left expensively outfitted ships, that in practice may be rest...
by donald_of_tokyo
26 Feb 2024, 15:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

All depend on what to be tasked. River OPV can handle ARCIMS MCM USV, 6t weight, with 3t cargo. But, of course, not good at. Just it. T26 can also handle ARCIMS MCM USV as well. I understand its mission bay is actually designed so…….T31? No idea. It is NOT designed to carry ARCIMS system. Of course...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

... MCMs have historically always had a secondary Patrol role. The “P” bit was always covered as they had a radar, a gun and the ability to launch boats. It seems pretty stupid not to keep this secondary role unless we are going fully unarmed civilian motherships, at which point you might as well c...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 15:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Rivers can’t, t26 shouldn’t nor should t31 the paper I linked for new guy explains why. https://www.bmt.org/media/3054/rina-warship-2018-aitken-mcm-paper.pdf All depend on what to be tasked. River OPV can handle ARCIMS MCM USV, 6t weight, with 3t cargo. But, of course, not good at. Just it. T26 can...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 12:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

T31 carrying two unmanned Pacific 9.5 (and one RHIB), and T26 carrying 2 RHIB and 2 ARCIMS looks just fine. Actually, if the crane remains, T31 can add a few RHIB or unmanned Pacific 9.5 on the mid deck. Also, T26 hangar can accommodate third ARCIMS, while retaining 2 RHIBs. But I think T31's boat b...
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 11:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Babcock guy stated that they are 9.5 m boat bays. (in the middle of the article)

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/babcocks-arr ... 31-frigate
by donald_of_tokyo
25 Feb 2024, 03:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

10 SeaSense USV systems will be covering 5 important ports/channels 24/7. I wouldn't believe so, at least not with as few as 10 USV's. I you look at project wilton (Navylookout source) ...Wilton is equipped with 3 boats that can carry REMUS 100 and 600 small-medium UUVs, Side-scan sonars and M500 R...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Feb 2024, 15:00
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Archer Class Patrol & Training Vessel (PBR) (RN)
Replies: 130
Views: 59087
Japan

Re: Archer Class Patrol & Training Vessel (PBR) (RN)

- "a SeaClass would be a bad choice". Why? If we take off the "training cabin" from SeaClass 15, it can be virtually a larger brother of ARCIMS USV. It can be used as USVs in war time by adding the same remote control system, and do the real job elsewhere around Britain and UK's...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Feb 2024, 12:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Another option, Atlas Sea Sense (for ships) https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/fileadmin/user_upload/01_Images/Solutions/SeaSense/SeaSense_Brochure_Feb2023.pdf and Atlas UK ARCIMS Sea Sense (USV) https://www.atlas-elektronik.com/fileadmin/user_upload/01_Images/Solutions/ARCIMS/ARCIMS_SeaSense_Brochure...
by donald_of_tokyo
24 Feb 2024, 01:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

CAPTAS-4 compact also has their own option which simultaneously replaces CAPTAS-2 because it is the same size. I believe CAPTAS-4 Compact has the same capability as old CAPTAS-4 and as such normal CAPTAS-4 production has ended. Here it is containerised: https://youtu.be/Ve9IzYRyOfo?si=mEkkfNZ9EmRyr...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 15:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5404
Views: 1415125
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Tamar just left Auckland NZ. Comparison with RNZN OPV is interesting. Although HMS Tamar is not a ship to fight, it look more fighty than RNZN OPVs, which looks more bulky. https://youtu.be/2JMgaw7g8pM?t=13 PS.1 RN OPV being a frequent visitor to NZ is very good. Also, HMS Tamar steaming at sea ...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 12:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

ULTRA 20-ft container ASW system. I think he is talking about Sea Lancer and its 2nd-Gen. As it is "single tow", it is very simple. May be not as capable as CAPTAS-4 (independent tow), but handling-system simplicity will be essential in "man-power limited" navy. For example, I t...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 12:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5404
Views: 1415125
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Tamar, now in NZ. - RNZN frigate has just test-fired 2 CAMMs. The frigates also as SeaSentor torpedo defense kits. So, yes NZ has a good commonality with RN. - I really hope HMS Tamar crew take a visit of HMNZS Otago and Wellington, the two OPV now in extended readiness because of lack of crew. ...
by donald_of_tokyo
23 Feb 2024, 10:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

ULTRA 20-ft container ASW system. I think he is talking about Sea Lancer and its 2nd-Gen. As it is "single tow", it is very simple. May be not as capable as CAPTAS-4 (independent tow), but handling-system simplicity will be essential in "man-power limited" navy. For example, I th...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 16:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

But OPVs also contributes to show presence. Has an impact. Of course, it is not as much as an escort. Considering the huge huge difference in resource needed to do it, this is very natural. No one is saying an OPV can have the same influence as an escort. No argument.
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 15:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5404
Views: 1415125
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Active, every where.

by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 15:43
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5404
Views: 1415125
Japan

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 15:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Diplomacy is basically broken down to how much money where does it go and what do I get in return. The law of economic warfare. Diplomacy is done by the diplomatic staff at the embassies across the world that presence is permanent where the decision makers are. If you don’t get what you want the co...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 13:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It isn't an obsession it is realty five are on order to replace the five T23 GP. The T31 isn't mediocre it provides a platform that is inherently easy to maintain, requires lower crewing and provides great range and capability cost effectively. It can scale from a more than competent light frigate ...
by donald_of_tokyo
22 Feb 2024, 12:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19100
Views: 7045383
Japan

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Soft power is a fiction. A fiction perpetuated by this government and its many shades since Blair, based on it playing nice in the media. There is economic power and there is military power. If China comes along and offers 10 new power stations on very east terms to Bangladesh or a nice new 500m do...