They have been neutered, so yes.Caribbean wrote:So the T23GP is a low-end light frigate?
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- 03 Nov 2017, 22:30
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- 23 Oct 2017, 22:27
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The way things are going, the hidden (yet very real) cost of T31e could be the loss of Albion and Bulwark.
£1.25 billion and the associated manpower could be put to far better use by investing it in our amphibious capabilities, getting an extra T26 and help toward properly arming the T45s and T26s.
£1.25 billion and the associated manpower could be put to far better use by investing it in our amphibious capabilities, getting an extra T26 and help toward properly arming the T45s and T26s.
- 17 Oct 2017, 21:54
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
- Replies: 1995
- Views: 566330
Re: Type 45 Destroyer (Daring Class) (RN) [News Only]
Any idea if a T45 had the opportunity to intercept in the recent anti-air missile exercises?
- 25 Sep 2017, 22:15
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 6143
- Views: 1864177
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
My expectations... Albion and Bulwark will go in the mini-review. They are expensive ships, and tying up a lot of manpower. This combined with a hefty cut to the Royal Marines should balance the RNs books. CASD and Carrier Strike will be "ring fenced" and the RN has the NSS as a sort of &q...
- 25 Sep 2017, 12:23
- Forum: Political Discussions
- Topic: Brexit - The UK's EU Referendum & Withdrawal
- Replies: 4600
- Views: 122401
Re: Brexit - The UK's EU Referendum & Withdrawal
Too often in politics (and the media) is any opposing view or team made out to be "completely wrong". This, combined with the fact that both sides of the Brexit referendum were hijacked by the most extreme views on the subject (I.e EU is love, EU is life vs EU is Satan, EU is Hitler) meant...
- 24 Sep 2017, 11:28
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1550961
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
The Irish?
- 23 Sep 2017, 15:56
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Mid-term review for the Strategic review?
- Replies: 703
- Views: 28153
Re: Mid-term review for the Strategic review?
Just been watching some of the reports from DSEI and the news isn't good. The current black hole in the UK's defence budget is now believed by analysts to be £50Bn and growing . It seems the most programmes such as the P-8 and AH-64R were budgeted at he exchange rate being $1.55 or better for the d...
- 23 Sep 2017, 11:44
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
- Replies: 5492
- Views: 1550961
Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Will the Argies moan and squirm as they did when we first sent a T45 to the islands?
- 21 Sep 2017, 19:56
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Had we stuck to earlier and more modest T26 design concepts, and not threw away the T22s and 5,000 sailors in SDSR 2010 - what sort of future escort fleet would we now be looking at? (Assuming the Army and Royal Marines shared the 5,000 personnel cut between them instead). The earlier concepts are (...
- 20 Sep 2017, 13:26
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: RN anti-ship missiles
- Replies: 1030
- Views: 250005
Re: RN anti-ship missiles
Would laser weapons not be the answer for cheap swarm attacks?
- 20 Sep 2017, 13:06
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
What are peoples opinion on a T31e fitted with all the adaptable options (I.e CAMM, HMS, TAS etc)
- 16 Sep 2017, 23:31
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8490
- Views: 2194602
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Part of constabulary duties is defence engagement with regional navies. Would a converted Ro-Ro be compatible with this?
- 15 Sep 2017, 18:03
- Forum: Political Discussions
- Topic: Donald Trump
- Replies: 828
- Views: 39559
Re: Donald Trump
Cannot agree with Trump more. We need to get tougher on Muslim immigration and the Muslim communities already in our country.
- 13 Sep 2017, 22:05
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Remind me why we have an 82,000 strong Army? Too small to do anything meaningful at scale, and yet still far too large for what is required of it. You would save a mountain of money, by cutting a further 20-30,000 - and fund a proper Royal Navy instead.
Cherry on the top will be Corbyn as PM in 2022!
Cherry on the top will be Corbyn as PM in 2022!
- 12 Sep 2017, 23:22
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
So, "year of the Royal Navy" 2017: -2 of 6 (was meant to be 12) T45s and both Albions to be mothballed (maybe/likely?) -HMS Ocean sold to Brazil -The first of 8 (was meant to be 13) T26 still ~10 years away until commission, have to solider on with ageing T23s until the mid 2030s!!! -No to...
- 07 Sep 2017, 19:05
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8490
- Views: 2194602
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Good to see they can accommodate a TAS, possibility the extra S2087s might end up on them?
- 07 Sep 2017, 17:28
- Forum: Defence Elsewhere
- Topic: Russian Armed Forces
- Replies: 1023
- Views: 68262
Re: Russian Armed Forces
Russia cannot keep its soviet era kit going forever. How long until it ends up with armed forces of a similar size to Western European countries?
- 02 Sep 2017, 00:24
- Forum: Personnel and Units
- Topic: RAF Regiment
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1274
Re: RAF Regiment
Will standards be lowered? Or just lower standards for women?
- 30 Aug 2017, 11:54
- Forum: Political Discussions
- Topic: New political party
- Replies: 11
- Views: 592
Re: New political party
The NHS spends more on fatties, smokers and alcoholics than it does on the emergency services. I think that is obscene. If people want to deliberately harm their bodies, then I shouldn't have to pay to keep them alive. Spend that money where it is really needed within the NHS. LIfestyle has a lot t...
- 30 Aug 2017, 00:47
- Forum: Political Discussions
- Topic: New political party
- Replies: 11
- Views: 592
Re: New political party
It's never been perfect, and the problem isn't moving matrons out of wards or even (and this is a very broad statement that should be qualified in a million ways) privatisation. It's the massive increase in the number of people living longer with complex long-term conditions meaning that while reso...
- 30 Aug 2017, 00:04
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
How many of those 62 destroyers and frigates in 1982 were truly "1st tier".
Of such ships in service, I count / would consider:
1 x T81 DDG
9 x T42 DDGs
4 x T22 FFs
= 14
Almost all of them were deployed to the Falklands.
Of such ships in service, I count / would consider:
1 x T81 DDG
9 x T42 DDGs
4 x T22 FFs
= 14
Almost all of them were deployed to the Falklands.
- 27 Aug 2017, 22:47
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 19390
- Views: 9721936
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The Type 31 frigate has no military requirement. It was literally pulled from the governments arse, as they didn't want to pay for 13 Type 26 frigates, but also didn't want to face bad headlines about huge cuts to the Royal Navy. The general public and the media know nothing about defence, and genui...
- 25 Aug 2017, 20:57
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8490
- Views: 2194602
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/08/25/uk-deadline-for-type-31-frigates-just-not-going-to-happen/ A report on the shipbuilding strategy produced for the government last year by industrialist Peter Parker recommended the warships could be block built by shipyards around the U.K. and assembled ...
- 24 Aug 2017, 13:15
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8490
- Views: 2194602
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
At £250 million, the likelihood of getting more than 5 does increase, however as people have stated above, we are in OPV-plus territory at that price anyway. A waste of money.
- 23 Aug 2017, 18:50
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Type 31 Frigate (Inspiration Class) [News Only]
- Replies: 8490
- Views: 2194602
Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Is that video available online?