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by SW1
16 Jul 2019, 19:38
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4127
Views: 211545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/07/16/trump-cuts-off-f-35-for-turkey-and-lawmakers-say-sanctions-are-coming/ WASHINGTON ― After days of silence about whether Turkey will be punished for accepting a Russian-made air defense system, U.S. President Donald Trump has made it clear: Turkey will ...
by SW1
16 Jul 2019, 10:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

however now we will have 8 t-26s capable of going anywhere tied to the carrier group and TAPS Which is exactly what the navy wanted and designed the type 26 accordingly No what they wanted was one class 13 ships capable of going anywhere what they will have is 8 ships tied to the carrier group and ...
by SW1
16 Jul 2019, 10:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I’m not sure why you are continuing to link this carrier requirement to drones. Just as an example why the Navy can't build a crap ship then say it'll have drones to offset the capability drop. The navy are building 14 escorts to cover its 2 primary tasks carrier strike and CASD, the conversation a...
by SW1
16 Jul 2019, 10:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Tempest414 wrote:however now we will have 8 t-26s capable of going anywhere tied to the carrier group and TAPS


Which is exactly what the navy wanted and designed the type 26 accordingly
by SW1
16 Jul 2019, 10:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The Navy is getting back into he business of proper carrier group operations and there is no way that carrier group is going to slow down so a PSV can recover a drone that can only reach 5 knots. These type of drones are simply not the solution to the carrier group problem. The navy specifically bo...
by SW1
15 Jul 2019, 19:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Pongoglo wrote:what he is saying is that we need more ASW/AAW escorts that can protect the QEC from both missiles


That’s what we’ve spent billions buying type 45 and type 26 for.
by SW1
15 Jul 2019, 16:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

This all sounds like a solution in search of a problem. QE has plenty of space for UAV's and the T26 has plenty of space for boats. There is nothing on the horizon that doesn't fit into these categories. Dress it up however you want and the concepts touted over the last couple of days are a massive...
by SW1
15 Jul 2019, 12:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Would be worth noting we don’t have the unmanned payloads, air, surface or subsurface would be nice if we actually started buying our own and deploying with ones integrated and learn from actual operations. This is the problem. The reason bay/Albion keeps getting mentioned as there host is because w...
by SW1
13 Jul 2019, 21:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So I get we may wish to help in the flow of trade and the like but why should we commit 2 escort vessels when countries like Japan, Korea Singapore are not? These 2 “British” tankers are vessels built in the Far East operating between the gulf and japan and Singapore respectively one operated by a J...
by SW1
13 Jul 2019, 10:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

This is why I would of preferred a design based off a scaled down T26, something like 130m by 19m 5,000t odd with a merlin flight deck and joint hanger mission space ( instead of larger mission bay ) instead of the current T31 set up. Something like the above sharing as much of T26 design aspects a...
by SW1
12 Jul 2019, 18:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

The bigger consideration will be the maintenance and supportability rather than a unit cost. The fact New Zealand could leverage australian services in this regard will have a big bearing on making this an affordable option.
by SW1
09 Jul 2019, 21:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 57
Views: 2881
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

The reasons a boat like this maybe of interest is because the role of the marines is changing. If we’re going to be placing a greater importance on the littoral and working in it then boats like this should be considered as a way to exert control over the littoral thru the littoral strike group. We ...
by SW1
08 Jul 2019, 22:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Marines boats
Replies: 57
Views: 2881
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Marines boats

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2019/07/08/the-us-navys-riverines-are-up-gunned-high-tech-and-ready-to-lean-into-great-power-competition/ The head of NECC, Rear Adm. Brian Brakke, is taking that new focus and his new Mark VI platform and turning toward the challenge at hand: great power competitio...
by SW1
07 Jul 2019, 09:44
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1382
Views: 81846
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

That may well be the primary role but the platform will be capable of conducting a multitude of missions being swing role capable. Nobody can afford to build and operate specialised single role platforms any more. Haven’t suggested that it wouldn’t be multirole, merely pointing out that any nation ...
by SW1
07 Jul 2019, 08:20
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1382
Views: 81846
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

Saab are heavily involved in the T-X program with Boeing but there not buying any of them.


First and foremost whatever is purchased to replace typhoon will have the primary mission of conducting national and nato air defence. That is a requirement for any nations likely to join the program
by SW1
06 Jul 2019, 08:34
Forum: Royal Air Force
Topic: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)
Replies: 1382
Views: 81846
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future UK Combat Aircraft (Project Tempest)

The reason tailless has always ended up losing out is it becomes extremely difficult and expensive to get the required directional control functionality of a fighter with such a design. A future fighter really needs to get cost down and supportability up. The more stealthy bit of the system maybe a ...
by SW1
04 Jul 2019, 22:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The RN, has as a result distrusted mechanical opening of launchers. No use having more missiles, if you can't fire the ones you have got. This is not to say that a mechanical (or electrical) method of opening a launch tube is not viable, just that there is (with some justification) a reluctance to ...
by SW1
04 Jul 2019, 18:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 27366
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

The reference you used explains the environment they will operate in “they will predominantly be used in low threat conditions”. If high threat conditions exist then other warships will be used People want these to be high end warships perhaps it’s even a ruse to get high end warships. The reality ...
by SW1
04 Jul 2019, 13:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 27366
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

Bays and Forts have very low level of damage control, with high level of radar (and visible) cross-section, as well as very limited mobility. The reference you used explains the environment they will operate in “they will predominantly be used in low threat conditions”. If high threat conditions ex...
by SW1
04 Jul 2019, 12:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)
Replies: 314
Views: 27366
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Bay Class Landing Ship Dock (LSD (A)) (RFA)

I think the underlined point cannot be met by Bay. It is a warship, build to naval standard (Bays are not). There is a reason for it. The bit immediately before the part u highly is the important bit. The bays operate in the gulf and across many domains. The credibility of there offensive or defens...
by SW1
03 Jul 2019, 08:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 289
Views: 17517
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

You could consider them larger more powerful and persistent sonobuoys that are recoverable that you deploy in numbers to get a better picture of an area.

Where the ability to deploy numbers becomes of benefit.
by SW1
01 Jul 2019, 09:14
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)
Replies: 4127
Views: 211545
Location: United Kingdom

Re: F-35B Lightning (RAF & RN)

According to Air Force Monthly, the RAF is going to have less aircraft allocated to the F-35 Squadrons (Between 8 and 10) compared to the Typhoon equipped ones. Seems to be another case of smoke and mirrors as the average Joe will only see the number of Squadrons stood up not the number of aircraft...
by SW1
29 Jun 2019, 10:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 289
Views: 17517
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

Is there much difference between fremm, f100, or type 26 in terms of boat or aviation capacity?
by SW1
26 Jun 2019, 10:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3838
Views: 212398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Scottish independence is/was a convenient excuse. Further up the Clyde there would have been a much greater headache. The delay and slow rate of build is/was all to do with money. The initial delay in that MoD let the budget for the program get completely out of control to the point were the realisa...
by SW1
24 Jun 2019, 08:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 9768
Views: 413219
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Korea and Japan sell a lot of cars in the uk along with other trade and services the UK is in their interest, with an increased threat from Russia in uk waters are they planning to send warships to protect their interests Probably not, but if someone threatened their import routes for oil and raw m...

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