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by Repulse
12 Jan 2025, 09:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion



Why is this thread full of completely off topic MCMV chat there is a thread for that.


Good question. I've deleted the MCMV posts. Please keep this topic focused on escorts.


Why delete and not move? In any case it’s not a binary discussion, escorts are now platforms for off board systems ...
by Repulse
11 Jan 2025, 15:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion


Actually the RN is plaing to have 3 USV on each mothership - please see attached tweet from Gabriele

The City class can only take 2 USVs so it is too small


States that the expectation is three USVs, but let’s see.The class works for France it seems from reports, and RFA Stirling Castle has ...
by Repulse
11 Jan 2025, 14:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion


As said on the Amphib thread the only hope of getting MRSS in 2033 is to build them in Rosyth it is now clear that this should be the way forward


Let’s see, latest is that we should have a MRSS concept by the middle of this year ahead of then a design period, contract negotiations etc. Even ...
by Repulse
11 Jan 2025, 14:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion





My vote - build six City Class MCMs under licence to replace the RB1s/Hunts and meet the LSV requirement between late 2020s and mid 2030s. In parallel kick of a design project for a future LUSV programme. This would build some of use both short and longer term, and keep a second yard alive and ...
by Repulse
11 Jan 2025, 10:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

https://www.twitter.com/navylookout/status/1877661307899347000?s=46&t=uxMT95H5Nr9jAEmCklKdgA

Whether it gets canned formally as part of the SDR or kicked into the long grass in a never ending “concept phase” feels irrelevant. With recent news on government borrowing costs and expected further cuts ...
by Repulse
10 Jan 2025, 22:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)


Information for NSM

The missile is delivered in a 4 x 0.81 x 0.8m container. The curb weight of the container is 710 kg. The time between scheduled inspections is 3 years and between overhauls is 5-10 years. Planned time of missile operation - 30 years.

Quite a maintenance hog


So no ...
by Repulse
10 Jan 2025, 19:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)








Well we will find out what the RN want as the type 31 comes on line and how they use the fleet they have


Well if they are earmarking one for Kipion, another for FRE and with reduced availability with the additional maintenance required for the wishlist and shortage of crew, then it ...
by Repulse
10 Jan 2025, 18:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)






Well we will find out what the RN want as the type 31 comes on line and how they use the fleet they have


Well if they are earmarking one for Kipion, another for FRE and with reduced availability with the additional maintenance required for the wishlist and shortage of crew, then it won ...
by Repulse
10 Jan 2025, 17:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)




Well we will find out what the RN want as the type 31 comes on line and how they use the fleet they have


Well if they are earmarking one for Kipion, another for FRE and with reduced availability with the additional maintenance required for the wishlist and shortage of crew, then it won’t be ...
by Repulse
10 Jan 2025, 15:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)


Well we will find out what the RN want as the type 31 comes on line and how they use the fleet they have


Well if they are earmarking one for Kipion, another for FRE and with reduced availability with the additional maintenance required for the wishlist and shortage of crew, then it won’t be ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 17:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion





Has a lot of merit, but cannot see how RN ships based in the Black Sea would work due to the Montreux Convention, though the author seems convinced. Surely it would be better for Romania and Ukraine navy flagged ships to operate, with RN support (even part RN crews). Think we’ve found where ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 17:27
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)












What value is renewing Naval relationships with smaller nations in the indo pacific? Will said smaller nations rally to our aid and deploy their minor vessels to fight alongside us in a future war?

You don't understand those who wish to change their role but then go on to add ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 12:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion



Has a lot of merit, but cannot see how RN ships based in the Black Sea would work due to the Montreux Convention, though the author seems convinced. Surely it would be better for Romania and Ukraine navy flagged ships to operate, with RN support (even part RN crews). Think we’ve found where to ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 10:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion


Or assign one of our fleet escorts like type 31 to nato standing naval group maritime 2 with a commodore staff and agree at nato level to conducted maritime deterrence and freedom of navigation in the Black Sea. Hence Turkey involved solving the montreux convention and the U.S. who isn’t a ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 08:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion



Has a lot of merit, but cannot see how RN ships based in the Black Sea would work due to the Montreux Convention, though the author seems convinced. Surely it would be better for Romania and Ukraine navy flagged ships to operate, with RN support (even part RN crews). Think we’ve found where to ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 08:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion



Has a lot of merit, but cannot see how RN ships based in the Black Sea would work due to the Montreux Convention, though the author seems convinced. Surely it would be better for Romania and Ukraine navy flagged ships to operate, with RN support (even part RN crews). Think we’ve found where to ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 08:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)










What value is renewing Naval relationships with smaller nations in the indo pacific? Will said smaller nations rally to our aid and deploy their minor vessels to fight alongside us in a future war?

You don't understand those who wish to change their role but then go on to add ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 07:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 21020
Views: 11335360

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Has a lot of merit, but cannot see how RN ships based in the Black Sea would work due to the Montreux Convention, though the author seems convinced. Surely it would be better for Romania and Ukraine navy flagged ships to operate, with RN support (even part RN crews). Think we’ve found where to ...
by Repulse
09 Jan 2025, 07:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)








What value is renewing Naval relationships with smaller nations in the indo pacific? Will said smaller nations rally to our aid and deploy their minor vessels to fight alongside us in a future war?

You don't understand those who wish to change their role but then go on to add 'modest ...
by Repulse
08 Jan 2025, 21:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)






What value is renewing Naval relationships with smaller nations in the indo pacific? Will said smaller nations rally to our aid and deploy their minor vessels to fight alongside us in a future war?

You don't understand those who wish to change their role but then go on to add 'modest ...
by Repulse
08 Jan 2025, 08:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)




What value is renewing Naval relationships with smaller nations in the indo pacific? Will said smaller nations rally to our aid and deploy their minor vessels to fight alongside us in a future war?

You don't understand those who wish to change their role but then go on to add 'modest ...
by Repulse
07 Jan 2025, 07:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5822
Views: 1939447

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)


What value is renewing Naval relationships with smaller nations in the indo pacific? Will said smaller nations rally to our aid and deploy their minor vessels to fight alongside us in a future war?

You don't understand those who wish to change their role but then go on to add 'modest' upgrades ...
by Repulse
06 Jan 2025, 16:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 2149
Views: 408583

Re: General UK Defence Discussion









Using six T83 for BMD would be a complete waste of resources.

As part of an integrated defence it makes perfect sense.

It means combining what would be an always available BMD capability if it was on land with the Service availability of ships.
Meaning what would only require 1 ...
by Repulse
06 Jan 2025, 13:33
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 2149
Views: 408583

Re: General UK Defence Discussion







Using six T83 for BMD would be a complete waste of resources.

As part of an integrated defence it makes perfect sense.

It means combining what would be an always available BMD capability if it was on land with the Service availability of ships.
Meaning what would only require 1 BMD ...