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by Repulse
01 Dec 2021, 12:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

CGI of a River with a bigger gun & hangar .. https://www.shephardmedia.com/media/cache/images/redactor_uploads/2021/11/17/Picture3/6b221f0d3b712d8513d7df45e60057ce.jpg the hangar looks good but it would lose its ability to operate a large number of other very useful kit like unmanned MCM , ASW ...
by Repulse
24 Nov 2021, 12:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

right now with the 2 Bays and Points we could move a Battalion battle group some 1400 troops plus kit and support this in turn could be supported by a RM force operating from the LPD now a zero notice deployment of such a force to Poland would be a good thing You could, and it does seem odd why the...
by Repulse
24 Nov 2021, 09:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Where is the damage control? They aren't amphibious assault ships, they are logistics - they will need a secured port to land with escorts (probably including a CSG) if we are at war. The days of large scale amphibious assaults are over (at least for now). Why replace purpose built amphibious craft...
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 20:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
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Views: 1067047
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

wargame_insomniac wrote: 23 Nov 2021, 19:40 dread to think what would happen if Spey and Tamar are sent to the Persian Gulf!!
Depends on what they are being asked to do. Arguably better protected than a MCM.
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 15:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

If we don’t have the vessels, they will not be over “just for now”, but virtually on a “permanent basis” as if they were needed, we would not have the time to acquire any ! Possibly, but the chances that of a full scale amphibious assault with a significant land element (like Iraq) is almost zero I...
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 12:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq wrote: 23 Nov 2021, 08:48 Where is the damage control?
They aren't amphibious assault ships, they are logistics - they will need a secured port to land with escorts (probably including a CSG) if we are at war.

The days of large scale amphibious assaults are over (at least for now).
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 12:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)
Replies: 102
Views: 41954
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Re: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)

donald_of_tokyo wrote: 23 Nov 2021, 11:14 I agree it is not "increase" but surely not decrease/cut.
In the narrow context of small patrol boats no - but in the wider context of shallow draft ships <= 2,000t with less than 50 crew yes.
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 12:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 1067047
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

For me, mentioning "the threat level of EoS in a single word" is so meaningless I would agree with that statement. The difference is IMO that there are powerful (and not always aligned) nations in the region who don't necessarily like the UK playing on their turf. The Atlantic and western...
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 08:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

To my understanding, Points cannot carry troops, only vehicles? Where there is a will there is way, but one also has to remember portable/temporary accommodation will be at the expense of cargo I remember see a picture which had some portable accommodation on the hanger deck of one of the LHD, tryi...
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 08:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 4112
Views: 1067047
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

@Donald-san, the threat levels in the Caribbean, western Med and the Falklands is low. I’d argue that the threat levels off the west of Africa is medium, similar to areas EoS. Whilst, I’ve given up arguing for a 57mm gun that could be a permanent and appropriate level of protection, the ability to s...
by Repulse
23 Nov 2021, 08:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)
Replies: 102
Views: 41954
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Re: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)

Scimitar class up for disposal. A real shame IMO as the need of a fleet of fast patrol craft is increasing IMO. At where "the need of a fleet of fast patrol craft" is increasing? With patrol USVs coming, I think any such needs will be filled by USVs? (just genuine question). USVs have a r...
by Repulse
22 Nov 2021, 15:35
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

GarethDavies1 wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 15:01 Won't the new Ranger Battalions have a role too?
Possibly, but my reading of the Rangers are that they will be forward based (on the ground). TBH, it will be interesting to see the overlap between them and the Paras, who remain the primary group for airborne assault.
by Repulse
22 Nov 2021, 13:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

What Army units are being set up as high readiness reinforcements to take over from RM raiding force? Would an Army Light Infantry Regimment be able to be carried by an LSD such as an upgraded Bay Class? Good question, and a lot of this is still speculation. The core Army fighting units will be bas...
by Repulse
22 Nov 2021, 12:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

MRSS will have a well deck or rely on davits to launch water borne craft Both is required - I can't see how a ship without a well deck will be able to move the supporting kit - the need for a LCU/LCM remains, but additionally the need to launch smaller craft without having to stop / flood the well ...
by Repulse
21 Nov 2021, 08:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Hi First post. As a layman I am finding it very confusing what the Future Commando Force programme and the creation of two new Littoral Response Groups (North and South) will mean both to the Royal Marines and the RN/RFA Amphibious Warships. Welcome @wargame_insomniac I think you can see from readi...
by Repulse
20 Nov 2021, 11:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

IMO HADR will become the primary function of the LRG’s. The interim platforms will need to have the capacity to accommodate mexefloats and heavy reconstruction equipment as well as all the FCF raiding/assault kit. I think focusing the LRG on HADR would be a big mistake. I do see a role for the deli...
by Repulse
20 Nov 2021, 09:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)
Replies: 102
Views: 41954
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Re: Scimitar Class Fast Patrol Vessels (RN)

Scimitar class up for disposal. A real shame IMO as the need of a fleet of fast patrol craft is increasing IMO.

https://www.armscor.co.za/wp-content/up ... ich-V1.pdf
by Repulse
19 Nov 2021, 12:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Are we not trying to make MRSS fit a small part of the bigger picture if the size needs to be limited to sub 10k for the black sea It depends on what the bigger picture looks like - if we are scaling that a MRSS can accommodate a full LSU (and kit), then excluding logistics to transport an Army bri...
by Repulse
17 Nov 2021, 17:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Poiuytrewq , would agree and converting / using the Bays would give a much more limited capability than using the two LPDs that are already built. Argus plus an Albion would give a solid LSG(S) capability- though would cost @£50mn more a year to run which isn’t negligible but ultimately a rounding ...
by Repulse
17 Nov 2021, 12:56
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

jedibeeftrix wrote:two years later, and my concerns** about this notion of 'multiple companies' of marines yomping around after mobile artillary units remain unassauged!

** https://jedibeeftrix.wordpress.com/2019 ... ew-future/
I assume this is where vehicles like the Polaris come into play?
by Repulse
17 Nov 2021, 12:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
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Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Tempest414, but the Argus + Bay + Escort would be much more limited given the number of LCVPs/LCUs. A Bay is ultimately a logistics ship.
by Repulse
17 Nov 2021, 10:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

ArmChairCivvy / Lord Jim - if I am understanding correctly the core of the LSG (or LRG depending on what MOD is using nowadays) is the LSU - typically there will be one LSU stood up with the other 3 at various stages of the "leave, train, standby + deployed" cycle. Obviously, a key part o...
by Repulse
17 Nov 2021, 09:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Lord Jim,You are right that in most cases NGFS is increasingly limited - unless of course the RN builds some modern day Monitors with a couple of Railguns... :D
by Repulse
16 Nov 2021, 09:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

This would seem more logical that having teh MRSS replace the Bays, as the former are far more expensive to operate Completely agree - and what is more they are completely different roles. The RMs needs a larger number of smaller / cheaper LPDs which can operate independently but also operate toget...
by Repulse
15 Nov 2021, 12:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 3237
Views: 864911
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Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

A few articles / documents that I thought would be worth sharing: - https://www.dsei.co.uk/__media/libraries/south-theatre/ROYAL-NAVY-Royal-Marines-Accelerating-into-the-Future-Littoral-Strike-and-the-Future-Commando-Force.pdf - https://www.puzzle-palace.com/community-articles/no-comms-no-bombs-opti...