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by Repulse
21 Feb 2020, 06:19
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6352
Views: 516237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

Incremental procurement; do you think it's an idea that will catch on in the UK? I can see how it suits countries with smaller budgets or smaller procurement programmes around the edges of larger ones for larger countries to even out the overall budget - it all comes down whether increment 2, 3 etc...
by Repulse
20 Feb 2020, 20:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11195
Views: 1143519
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

bobp wrote:
abc123 wrote:Just 4 Type 23?


I see 9


Can’t seem to get beyond a blurry image, but it looks like 4 GP + 9 ASW. Was expecting 5 + 8; now let’s hope for 9 ASW T26s :P
by Repulse
15 Feb 2020, 17:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11288
Views: 862616
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Given the repeated statements that all departments must find 5% of savings and the news of more B2 Rivers being forward deployed (though now retracted), I think it is inevitable that the RN will loose 3 T23s over the next few years. Outside of CEPP (which requires 6 DDs and 6 ASW FFs) and TAPS (2 AS...
by Repulse
15 Feb 2020, 08:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3120
Views: 287398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

HMS Clyde still on a lease due to expire I believe in March. Keeping it for UK Fisheries/EEZ duties IMO is a no brainier given the likely post Brexit turbulence over the next few years.
by Repulse
10 Feb 2020, 21:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11288
Views: 862616
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

continuous construction with minimal gaps You mean a stable pipeline of business that companies can plan to and the government doesn’t incur costs for short term delays and destroying and then rebuilding capabilities - it’ll never catch on... In my view the RN could have got three more T26s for the...
by Repulse
09 Feb 2020, 09:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6352
Views: 516237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

I read today that Cummings is turning his guns on “rip off” BAE and Babcock, and pushing more US purchased COTS kit. The reality is that HMG differing/lack of strategy/short termism, corporate self interest/lies/greed and general nativity is equally to blame. Fact remains that given its size, aspira...
by Repulse
08 Feb 2020, 18:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6352
Views: 516237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

It was always inevitable to be a late letdown. We can talk about size and future jam all we want but in 10+ years when they finally all get delivered money will still be tight - cancel it now and buy another couple of T26s for god’s sake. It we want floating flag poles we have the B2 Rivers
by Repulse
02 Feb 2020, 14:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6352
Views: 516237
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

more interested in up arming T45 and T26, before spending any penny on T31 Agree with the sentiment, but this bit in particular - anyone who is dreaming that by adding a few more missiles or sensors on the T31 will make it a frigate capable of roles towards the T26 or T31 must stop now. The T31 at ...
by Repulse
02 Feb 2020, 11:48
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/sna-2020/2020/01/video-day-1-at-sna-2020/ The new Austal HSSV design looks interesting and possibly is a good match for the USN/USMC and even RAN, but can’t see it being a good fit for the RN/RM. IMO the UK requires a mixed capability of: - large RFA platforms w...
by Repulse
01 Feb 2020, 22:01
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11288
Views: 862616
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

RAF not on board? Any real evidence of this? And which UAVs would the RN be suggesting? Nothing concrete apart from a unsubtle lobbying through the press to go for the F35A. Also, with Saudi Arabia pausing its Tiffies purchase and the need to keep skills ahead of Tempest, then I can see easily the ...
by Repulse
01 Feb 2020, 08:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 11288
Views: 862616
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Can’t see the defence budget going sub 2% of GDP whilst Brexit is still fresh in our minds and we are trying to get a US trade deal with Donald T. Nor can I see large scale projects like the SSBN replacement being scrapped. I can see some short term savings, early retirement of T23s, sell of a RFA t...
by Repulse
19 Jan 2020, 16:04
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 3978
Views: 371572
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

There was interest in the CEAFAR radar from the UK, but seems to have gone quiet.

https://www.naval-technology.com/news/u ... avy-ships/
by Repulse
19 Jan 2020, 10:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

I’m hoping that with HMS Medway now seemingly forward based in the Caribbean, coupled with an opportunity in the SDSR / talk of a civilian HADR solution, the Bays will be able to focus more time on the mothership role being discussed.
by Repulse
19 Jan 2020, 08:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

agree, as you guys are crayoning what B2s will look like - our friend here did a good job - with much better tools - on the evolution path that the Bays might take Not sure I fully understand the point you are making. Are you suggesting that the three points I highlighted from Nick Child’s article ...
by Repulse
18 Jan 2020, 11:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Tell me the year when there will be enough of (available) T26s and T45s for all of them not to be ties to the carrier task force(s) Unless someone gets their chequebook out and buy more, that will be the year after never. ...fully agree, about the much ridiculed (on these pages) T31 The T31 has bee...
by Repulse
18 Jan 2020, 09:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Apologies if this has been posted before, but below is a short but good summary of the questions posed as part of the future UK/US strategy by Nick Childs. https://www.iiss.org/blogs/military-balance/2019/11/amphibious-shipping-changing-uk-us A few key points for me: - “General Berger [USMC] also ta...
by Repulse
14 Jan 2020, 13:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1046
Views: 113074
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Given the impact of recent statements on planning assumptions (I.e. not relying on the US) and the hype around the SDSR20, cannot see any decisions happening till Q4 this year.
by Repulse
04 Jan 2020, 12:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3120
Views: 287398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Tempest414 , to be honest the only criteria I have is to be able to provide suitable protection for the role and environment the ship is operating in. A 57mm gives greater range against surface and air targets, but if it’s operating in confined / crowded sea spaces then you could argue the advantag...
by Repulse
04 Jan 2020, 12:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3120
Views: 287398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

RichardIC , yes but it’s a modest investment when compared to building new classes of ship. We can revisit the history behind the B2s and what could have been, but at the end of the day the direction looks to be to keep them and the B1 Rivers. If the RN has them then they should use them, if they d...
by Repulse
04 Jan 2020, 10:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 3120
Views: 287398
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

donald_of_tokyo , I agree options to add heavy armaments to the River class continues to be an endless debate, though in my view has increased interest recently given the discussion on global deployments and also (IMO) the very clear noise coming from HMG to make better use of what the RN already h...
by Repulse
01 Jan 2020, 15:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 11195
Views: 1143519
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

serge750 wrote:where is she going that's hot in 2020?


Perhaps a CJEF exercise with France in the Med?
by Repulse
27 Dec 2019, 16:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Interesting overview in this months Warships IFR magazine on the US Littoral Combat Groups (LCGs) following a conference speech by Captain J.R.Hill (the amphibious warfare branch head). Describes the similar thought process to the RUSI RN/RM, with a concept of a light and heavy LCG. A heavy LCG woul...
by Repulse
24 Dec 2019, 11:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Replies: 2756
Views: 246541
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion

Lord Jim , if the RUSI route is followed the current 40 + 45 RM Cdos will be split into two mini 3 company mini Cdo structures plus company level independent units. Therefore, their Norwegian role would change also to a force capable securing key strategic points or a landing ground for a Strike Br...

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