How do you see them working within LRG-N ?. Clearly they are to big to operate from a well dock so what is there speed range will they need RAS what other ship will they work with They can either operate independently from the U.K., within a CSG, or more likely forward based somewhere in Norway ope...

Just to step aside what do we want / need to move a army brigade from ship to shore

We’ve been here before HMAV Ardennes royal logistics corp. It’s alright driving tanks onto a beach it’s how u support them in a shooting war. Bit bigger than that as these are seen as blue water vessels - but in some ways there are similarities. However, not thinking about tanks, more PODs, FCF for...

For me the need is a little different and so something like 1 x LPH = 700 million 4 x type 31-B2 = 1.6 billion 4 x MRSS = 1.5 billion 8 x MHPC = 1.1 billion 4 x Point replacements = 700 million 21 ships total cost 5.6 billion As for ship to shore connectors we already PACSCAT up and working with plu...

Caribbean wrote: ↑27 Sep 2023, 10:22 Rather difficult to shoot 'n scoot with that, wouldn't you say?

it can be fire of the back of the pickup

and once ashore

The whole point of the 1st division is to keep it light… But how light? Air Transportable or Air Mobile should not mean less lethal. Where is the lethality in the proposed 1st Div compared with other peer nations? …by keeping it light it remains air portable if we want to give it more teeth we have...

Just couple of things. Seems like 6th Division HQ will be disbanded. It is still questionable will 4th Brigade get regular artillery regiment or will it stuck with reserve just as for the logistic elements. Also "light-mechanised" would mean equipping it with whatever came from MRV-P proj...

We seem to be conflating RB1 replacement with P2000 replacement. Basically, what do P2000s do? As far as I can see, they provide armed patrol at Faslane, URNU, public engagement, junior officer command training & have been perticipating in exercises recently, though it looks as if they have lar...

I agree that what you have proposed looks achievable in the short term but for the future 1st Div just looks too light. IMO, by 2030, 3rd Div should form around CH3 , Ajax, K-9A3 , M270a2 plus either upgraded Warrior or a Warrior replacement. The money must be found. 1st Div should primarily form a...

For "~80m, 'light' patrol vessel", I think we need 4 to replace the River B1s as UK Patrol Vessels The Navy shouldn't be doing this, they have lots of other things to worry about. The Police, Border force, or a Coastguard should be responsible for law enforcement around the UK. what could...

I think we are tripping over our selves here the RB1's should be replaced with say a 75 to 85 meter design and the RB2's should be upgraded with 3D radar and 40mm gun but being this is the Amphib thread the question is what could be done with the Archer replacement to add to the Littoral Or if we ar...

I suppose when you only have about a brigades worth of engineering logistics and artillery’s available you can always group it into a divisional structure and make it look good by claiming it can support more than one brigade. If the headcount is remaining at 73K until they lose about 1/3 of the ca...

Well this is very close to what I have been asking for - for sometime but for this to work one Cavalry unit and one Artillery unit will need to move from the 3rd to the 1st It absolutely is, well done for calling it. It’s progress but it must just be the first phase of the complete rebuild of the A...

I was thinking more a 52 meter FCS like XV Patrick Blackett we know she can carry two TEU's so the hope would be the 52 meter ship could carry 4 fit them with a X1 radar and RWS that can take any of these 12.7mm , 30mm , 40mm GMG plus maybe 2 x LMM the ability to carry TEU's or 2 x ORC would be a go...

Well this is very close to what I have been asking for - for sometime but for this to work one Cavalry unit and one Artillery unit will need to move from the 3rd to the 1st

Babcock's Type 31 & Arrowhead 140 Frigates at DSEI 2023 Jonathan Walton, VP Business Development - Marine, shares the latest with the Royal Navy Type 31 and Arrowhead 140 frigate programs during DSEI 2023. Babcock just laid the keel for the second Type 31 (Inspiration class) frigate, HMS Ventur...

Yes everyone loves to knock Ajax and Warrior upgrade for being slow but Jaguar is not fully delivering maybe the CTA-40 and all the new kit is a handful to mount in a turret 3 projects 3 turrets all delayed

https://www.navylookout.com/multi-role-support-ships-the-future-of-royal-navy-amphibious-capability/ I think we are forgetting that it is to be a Anglo-Dutch collaboration, to share design costs: -RN are looking supposedly at 6*MRSS to replace Argus, both Albions and 3 remaining Bays. -The Dutch ar...

Moving because it’s not really relevant to the other thread but if you had something like global hawk or possibly zephyr in the future mounting an ISR payload would it need to be able to land on a ship at all? I think so for many reasons but for example, if it where to be truly multi purpose it may...

Moving because it’s not really relevant to the other thread but if you had something like global hawk or possibly zephyr in the future mounting an ISR payload would it need to be able to land on a ship at all? I think so for many reasons but for example, if it where to be truly multi purpose it may...

Could we see a AAW radar ship with say just 16 ABM's on it with the inner ring carried by other escorts

For me knowing that at this time we have 17 C3 ships between 52 and 90 meters I would like to see 15 new ships split something like 3 x 75 meter , 6 x 90 meter and 6 x 107 meter with last 2 capable of MHPC. I would fit the 90 and 107 meter ships with a 3d radar and 40mm as for defence The ability of...

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑21 Sep 2023, 17:34

new guy wrote: ↑21 Sep 2023, 16:56 Mate, a 100 crew, 130m long, 24m vide vessel isn't a OPV.

Whats an OPV?

Japan have a 150 by 16 meter OPV / CG Cutter

shark bait wrote: ↑21 Sep 2023, 11:58 Why does it need MALE drones? How can that be sold as a necessity when the carrier are not even half filled with aircraft?

Only because we might want to send the assault carrier with the ability to carry ISTAR / ASW / limited strike within low or mid treat area