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- 04 Dec 2023, 09:31
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Shit is going down in the gulf https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1731430823084081369 USS Carney is still being attacked too. It seems more and more likely that not only will HMS Diamond shoot in anger, but she may even be forced to mag dump. We are looking at up to £100m in ammo should there b...
- 03 Dec 2023, 13:00
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
If Type 31 goes to sea with its sensor fit 1 x 57mm , 2 x 40mm , 32 Mk-41 and S2170 it is going to be a great C2 ship and a real handful for any ship out there Don't forget the 2x Wildcats and potential NSM. The T31 is now a ASuW predator if utilised to the full potential. Two or three operating to...
- 03 Dec 2023, 12:25
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
So the UK Baltic deployment starting soon will have 2 x frigates , 2 x OPV's , 2 x MCM and a Bay class
this will mean just one or no OPV's in UK waters
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british ... ltic-area/
this will mean just one or no OPV's in UK waters
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british ... ltic-area/
- 03 Dec 2023, 11:44
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
This is just not true at any level unless you accept every war ship is a target It is now common knowledge that T-31 will be fitted with 2170 SSTD system to defend against torpedo attack and if T-31 gets 32 Mk-41 then in the surface and AAW fight T-26 has little or no advantage over T-31 If Type 31...
- 03 Dec 2023, 09:52
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The truth is fitting 32 Mk-41's will not make T-31 a C1 ship but more a high end C2 ship which… Is a target. Just build more T26s if your objective is to end up with a war fighting ship that has qualitative advantage over numerically superior forces. This is just not true at any level unless you ac...
- 01 Dec 2023, 17:04
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The case for 8 T-31's becomes clear if there get there 32 MK-41's as at this point they become real war fighting ships as when fitted with the right weapons they can defend them self and others around them and attack target over 1000km away But then it’s not a C2, you are trying to make it a C1, at...
- 01 Dec 2023, 12:50
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The hull is not where the cost is in such a vessel and the roles dictate crew numbers. If a C2 design can be built for £100mn, have a core crew of @40 and an availability of 80% I’m all ears. But what capability has it got? it isn't all about cost, crew and availability, the ship has to do somethin...
- 01 Dec 2023, 11:40
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
The hull is not where the cost is in such a vessel and the roles dictate crew numbers. If a C2 design can be built for £100mn, have a core crew of @40 and an availability of 80% I’m all ears. But what capability has it got? it isn't all about cost, crew and availability, the ship has to do somethin...
- 26 Nov 2023, 12:31
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
For me the balance of Global OPV's and Global GP frigates will be key and if or when T-31 gets their 32 MK-41 VLS they will more than cover the global frigate role as for the global OPV this needs to be a balancing act in and of its self so for me something like what I have been calling for 110 by 1...
- 25 Nov 2023, 17:19
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Why? if they got a good UAV capable of OTH search and track then this close the gap Simple threat assessment. The Rivers are fine in Littoral areas with helo coverage provided by land based options. Once they start to roam the globe through more dangerous zones they are completely defenceless. RN n...
- 25 Nov 2023, 16:08
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
….how would the RB2's be changed if they got the NS50 4D radar and the 40mm Bofors main gun It would be an improvement but possibly too much and not enough. The hull really needs a stretch with a hanger added to start to release the full potential for forward basing around the globe. Why? if they g...
- 25 Nov 2023, 15:12
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Further to recent OPV discussions. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/11/frances-dga-orders-7-new-opv-for-the-french-navy/ 7 new French 2400t OPVs for €900m or £112m unit. A stretched River to 115m LOA and around 2500t at £125m unit certainly looks plausible in comparison. Anyone know the le...
- 25 Nov 2023, 11:25
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Interesting question from that article in relation to UAV and swarm drones and the use of the 5' guns. Could we see a return of the twin mount guns in a similar role as our WWII predecessors and perhaps more AA guns on escorts or perhaps aircraft carriers themselves? Is 4x DS30M Mark 2 enough for t...
- 25 Nov 2023, 10:32
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Interesting question from that article in relation to UAV and swarm drones and the use of the 5' guns. Could we see a return of the twin mount guns in a similar role as our WWII predecessors and perhaps more AA guns on escorts or perhaps aircraft carriers themselves? Is 4x DS30M Mark 2 enough for t...
- 25 Nov 2023, 10:00
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Further to recent OPV discussions. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/11/frances-dga-orders-7-new-opv-for-the-french-navy/ 7 new French 2400t OPVs for €900m or £112m unit. A stretched River to 115m LOA and around 2500t at £125m unit certainly looks plausible in comparison. Anyone know the le...
- 24 Nov 2023, 19:40
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Albion Class Amphibious Assault Ships (LPD) (RN)
- Replies: 568
- Views: 192328
Re: Albion Class Amphibious Assault Ships (LPD) (RN)
As said Bulwark will come back on line and work up and then QE will go in for first major dry dock refit and POW will take over the strike carrier role I think there is a big question mark over the future of Bulwark and Albion. Both I think are potentially tempting low hanging fruit for the next Go...
- 24 Nov 2023, 17:55
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Albion Class Amphibious Assault Ships (LPD) (RN)
- Replies: 568
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Re: Albion Class Amphibious Assault Ships (LPD) (RN)
As said Bulwark will come back on line and work up and then QE will go in for first major dry dock refit and POW will take over the strike carrier role
- 24 Nov 2023, 16:29
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5463
- Views: 1014761
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
The Royal Navy should definitely "go there", but not "on as many vessels as possible" as previously advised. For me we should be pushing Camcoptor on the Frigates and OPV's this pushes ISTAR out to 150Km for upto 6 hours maybe I would look at a Sniper quadcopter for the OPV's as...
- 24 Nov 2023, 14:28
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5463
- Views: 1014761
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Why? Compared to a F35 the complexity is of different magnitude. Mojave can be shipped in a crate and operated from austere airstrips. A large but modestly equipped flattop would be more than good enough. Protector needs everything an F35 needs to operate, the pilot is just somewhere else. Austere ...
- 24 Nov 2023, 10:45
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5463
- Views: 1014761
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Once the potential of MALE STOL drones is fully understood it will be a high priority to get them on as many vessels as possible. The utility of organic Naval aviation has been understood for decades. Crew or no crew onboard this does no change. The limiting factor is how expensive it is. Operating...
- 23 Nov 2023, 15:50
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5463
- Views: 1014761
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Moved MALE operations in the locations we operate in don’t need to be operated from a ship so having them on the carrier is fine but it’s not a widespread requirement. Protector for example has transatlantic operating reach. This range and endurance is severely restricted when fully loaded. The rat...
- 23 Nov 2023, 12:09
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
- Replies: 5463
- Views: 1014761
Re: Current & Future Amphibious Capability - General Discussion
Moved MALE operations in the locations we operate in don’t need to be operated from a ship so having them on the carrier is fine but it’s not a widespread requirement. Protector for example has transatlantic operating reach. This range and endurance is severely restricted when fully loaded. The rat...
- 22 Nov 2023, 16:39
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
time to move over to the current and future Amphib thread maybe chaps
- 22 Nov 2023, 11:26
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Babcock is working with the ROK on its Carrier program is it not also I would of thought the ROK would been on POW for the Mojave test Babcock is working on CVX but a modified Dokdo looks like a better fit for RN. If RN did decide a LHA was required the 40,000t South Korean LPX could be a useful st...
- 22 Nov 2023, 09:36
- Forum: Royal Navy
- Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
- Replies: 18006
- Views: 3669925
Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Devils in the detail but it’s difficult to see what assets RN would have regularly available to do this before the T31’s replace the RB2s. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/21/britain-south-korea-north-korea-sanctions-navy-patrols/ A RN OPV is simply not suitable for the proposed deplo...