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by Tempest414
24 Feb 2024, 11:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5403
Views: 1414696
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

I like the Protector class layout and this is what I would be looking for a 100 by 16 meter ship with the same layout allowing for a bigger flight deck and rear working deck could be a very nice MHPC
by Tempest414
24 Feb 2024, 10:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I would say a buy of say 6 to 8 Sea Lancer could be a good thing they could be deployed across the RB1 , RB2 & T-31 classes Having all 5 T-31's capable of deploying SL would be useful Even a RB1 pulling a Sea Lancer in the the North Sea or Baltic would give Russian Sub commanders another thing t...
by Tempest414
23 Feb 2024, 17:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

But what is the cost and capability different's in these systems if I remember rightly we came up with a cost of 30 million a pop for CAPTAS 4 C what could Sea Lancer 2nd Gen bring to the table and what is the cost
by Tempest414
23 Feb 2024, 16:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

How much do we think Sea Lancer 2nd Gen would cost
by Tempest414
23 Feb 2024, 11:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

ULTRA 20-ft container ASW system. I think he is talking about Sea Lancer and its 2nd-Gen. As it is "single tow", it is very simple. May be not as capable as CAPTAS-4 (independent tow), but handling-system simplicity will be essential in "man-power limited" navy. For example, I t...
by Tempest414
22 Feb 2024, 15:07
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It isn't an obsession it is realty five are on order to replace the five T23 GP. The T31 isn't mediocre it provides a platform that is inherently easy to maintain, requires lower crewing and provides great range and capability cost effectively. It can scale from a more than competent light frigate ...
by Tempest414
22 Feb 2024, 11:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It isn't an obsession it is realty five are on order to replace the five T23 GP. The T31 isn't mediocre it provides a platform that is inherently easy to maintain, requires lower crewing and provides great range and capability cost effectively. It can scale from a more than competent light frigate ...
by Tempest414
22 Feb 2024, 10:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

OPV+ doesn't exist. Sorry, why are you saying this? They absolutely do and can list of a number of classes if you care. However, should the RN prioritise them and what they could do is all up for debate. Personally, I think given the broader priorities they aren’t needed, and the B2 Rivers with a r...
by Tempest414
22 Feb 2024, 10:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If the requirement is to face Russia alone then we are all good apart from needing say 15 corvettes as said the Russian Atlantic fleet has 12 escorts + 30 Corvettes and 13 SSNs + 6 SSKs The RB2's are doing a good job and if given the upgrade I have put forward could do that job even better but they ...
by Tempest414
21 Feb 2024, 12:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

As I keep saying Nato Europe not including the US and Canada has 127 escorts and 80 Corvettes & OPV's it also has 13 SSN's and 53 SSK's

just for balance Russian Atlantic fleet has 12 escorts , 13 SSN's & 6 SSK's
by Tempest414
21 Feb 2024, 10:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1752
Views: 180822
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

List of vehicles expected to be removed from service by 2030 AS90 Stormer Warrior 105mm light gun BV206 Mastiff Ridgback Wolfhound Beach Recovery Vehicle Heavy Equipment Transporter Foxhound Protected Patrol Vehicle Jackal Coyote Pinzgauer Landrover (including WMIK/RWMIK variants) Quad bike Wheeled...
by Tempest414
21 Feb 2024, 10:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What I am saying is that, OPV+ is OPV+, will not add any mass on war fighting assets. If RN want more OPV immediately, it is easy: lease RNZN Otago-class OPVs (now both are in reserve ( because of lack of crew )) for 2-3 years. We know there are a few Irish OPVs also, waiting for their crew . In sh...
by Tempest414
21 Feb 2024, 09:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Can't you see the absurdity of your proposal? If not, you must be smoking some good stuff in your bubble. In Blue planet IV we see many different animals, the least of which being a wild Tempest and Poiuytrewq, who desires fantasy fleets with fantasy ships on fantasy based beliefs. ho dear coming f...
by Tempest414
20 Feb 2024, 23:02
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Can't you see the absurdity of your proposal? If not, you must be smoking some good stuff in your bubble. In Blue planet IV we see many different animals, the least of which being a wild Tempest and Poiuytrewq, who desires fantasy fleets with fantasy ships on fantasy based beliefs. ho dear coming f...
by Tempest414
20 Feb 2024, 18:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

More T31 "as is", is what you are saying, I felt. No corvette nor OPV+. Any warship with so-so AAW and "57mm and 40mm" guns and a helicopter hangar is very similar to T31, and introducing new design will not be justified, I think. Why are people obsessed with replacing OPVs that...
by Tempest414
20 Feb 2024, 11:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think the Holland would be quite expensive if built today it was about 120m euros with the hull built in Romania in 2007. But also quite capable. I would disagree that it wasn’t what some are proposing as the opv+ because tempest spec was “I think we should be able to build a 105 to 110 by 16 met...
by Tempest414
20 Feb 2024, 11:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So no matter who owns Diego Garcia the US will be able to keep its base there on a long term lease so it would be a great place for us to base any escorts , OPV's or MRSS out of to cover the Indian Ocean , Gulf , and East Africa If it is such a great location why are we not using it now? That is si...
by Tempest414
20 Feb 2024, 09:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Repulse wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 09:32
SW1 wrote: 20 Feb 2024, 08:03 So they are cutting the top and the opvs at the bottom to bulk out the middle. Interesting
One that can do ASW - if only…
We all know T-31 could do ASW duties in the same way FDI will if it was given a VDS

I have to say the French FDI will be a good contender
by Tempest414
20 Feb 2024, 09:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Eleven Tier 2 ASW focussed 3,000t light frigates with self defense AAW only. Initially built overseas, Germany, Spain, Japan or Korea. Meko A200, Alfa3000, Mogami or Daegu. T31 more so IMO, no mention of a variant for the Tier 2. The requirement has ASW capabilities down also - https://www.twitter....
by Tempest414
19 Feb 2024, 10:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So no matter who owns Diego Garcia the US will be able to keep its base there on a long term lease so it would be a great place for us to base any escorts , OPV's or MRSS out of to cover the Indian Ocean , Gulf , and East Africa If it is such a great location why are we not using it now? That is si...
by Tempest414
19 Feb 2024, 10:13
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

… Those Vard vessels are the basis for the US coast guard heritage class cutter we can argue if they should have camm in any UK vessels. The American vessels are coming in at around $700m dollars per ship and while it will be more expensive to manufacture in the states than here are they really tha...
by Tempest414
19 Feb 2024, 09:39
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19028
Views: 7043400
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So no matter who owns Diego Garcia the US will be able to keep its base there on a long term lease so it would be a great place for us to base any escorts , OPV's or MRSS out of to cover the Indian Ocean , Gulf , and East Africa If it is such a great location why are we not using it now? That is si...
by Tempest414
19 Feb 2024, 09:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 15324
Views: 4393715
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

No - and likewise it wouldn't be better if only people who HAD served/worked for the MoD were on here. On group has experience of how things really work and the other is not caught "in the silo" I agree we need all groups but what we need is those who are serving now to feed in more of th...
by Tempest414
18 Feb 2024, 22:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 15324
Views: 4393715
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

No - and likewise it wouldn't be better if only people who HAD served/worked for the MoD were on here. On group has experience of how things really work and the other is not caught "in the silo" I agree we need all groups but what we need is those who are serving now to feed in more of th...
by Tempest414
18 Feb 2024, 22:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 15324
Views: 4393715
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

The USN have had problems with there new carriers as well these thing take time to bed in I think given the scale of the task the Carriers are on track also given the gap of 10 years we need to find our feet again