Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑08 Jun 2023, 22:00

tomuk wrote: ↑08 Jun 2023, 21:53 Interesting that the fit includes a Hensoldt TRS-3D radar and Saab 9LV CMS but no missiles.

Designed to work closely with the rest of the Norwegian navy but perhaps not when the shooting starts.

Wartime UOR of some box launched NSM?

A great example of a Medium Capacity OPV from VARD. LOA: 136m Beam: 22m Draft: 6.2m Displacement: 9800t Max Speed: 22knts Endurance: 60 days 40mm Hanger for 2 medium helicopters Merlin capable flight deck Accommodation for 100 SS1221 Sonar Ice reinforced hull Hospital facilities https://www.naval-t...

Another expendable we have to rely on others for https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/uk-no-longer-able-to-manufacture-155mm-artillery-barrels-bae-systems-admits/ Is it suprising though? When did we last order any? Are the buildings being\already demolished at Barrow where they used t...

Its the bullshitting I don't like, as the F-35 workshare is a percentage allocated to British companies which end up producing stuff in the US - Lift fan! Back end, lift fan and some systems are manufactured in the UK I believe.... We may make the lift fan blades here. But Plainfield build them htt...

Another expendable we have to rely on others for https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/uk-no-longer-able-to-manufacture-155mm-artillery-barrels-bae-systems-admits/ Is it suprising though? When did we last order any? Are the buildings being\already demolished at Barrow where they used t...

Can we agree on this? - One T83 equals two T26 - One T26 equals two T31 - One T31 equals two HiCap OPVs - One HiCap OPV equals two Standard OPVs Simple? No I'd rather T83 was closer to T26 price otherwise we aren't getting six to replace the T45s and I'd suggest a T26 is closer to the cost of three...

No they couldn't and the price of T26 isn't £800m Yes it is (and it includes a slow build rate): https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2022/november/15/20221115-hms-birmingham-leads-second-batch-of-type-26-frigates-ordered Yes they could have easily afforded 10. Total bill for ...

Definitely 3-4 hulls would not be enough, even 4 is asking for trouble, I really do hope that future Government has learned it's lesson & won't shrink the RN any further so at least a 1 for 1 replacement should be the minimum - be interesting to see if they will go for a new version of Sampson ...

Its the bullshitting I don't like, as the F-35 workshare is a percentage allocated to British companies which end up producing stuff in the US - Lift fan! Are some of the the lift system components not made in Bristol? There was a grand opening in 2018 when they reached a certain level of productio...

I simply don't buy into the view of UK manufacturing draws expenditure back into UK coffers, (it might do), but those coffers are separate from the MOD budget, so your defence budget buys you less and less and the military continue to contract in an ever decreasing death spiral.... If the MoD budge...

Who doesn't love the energetic launched of a Sea Viper Missile :D Those hatches looked very clean compared to after.... I wonder if someone is going to have to clean that, poor sailor. @Gunbuster on another forum said that sailors painted liquid hand soap over surfaces before the launch so that aft...

The RN could have got 10 T26s with the funds available and have money to spare, if the Treasury hadn’t pushed the £250mn frigate. Sure, the RN pitched it, but reality is that it was a bad move, and guess what this £250mn frigate will still end up to be double that. It’s naive beyond belief The real...

I’m still somewhat at a loss as to the rationale for theses mk41 silos in the fleet. We have not procured anything cleared in them. Could you not say the same about the T26? Indeed you can. Apart from the much talked about FCASW which surely the French would want to be Sylver compatible too what el...

…why not use the T45 hull for the replacement. Why not? However, an adapted T26 that retains the superior ASW capability is still top of the list if RN can pull it off. IMO a T26 based AAW optimised T83 would change everything for RN especially if 8 were built. That would allow the T83’s to concent...

Not familiar with the source but it looks more than a copy & paste defence blog. Real or fake, it will likely have as much bearing on a completed Type 83 as RV Triton does on HMS Glasgow. the source is a reasonably respectable online 'daily brief'. They sometimes include opinion pieces that are...

Arguing for arguments sake, the pair of you. Geo was on his mission to savagely cut defense spending in pursuit of his financially illiterate idea that a balanced budget should be achieved at all costs. He refused to pay for T26GP and commissioned an ex-Babcock's guy to write a shipbuilding "s...

I’m still somewhat at a loss as to the rationale for theses mk41 silos in the fleet. We have not procured anything cleared in them. Could you not say the same about the T26? Indeed you can. Apart from the much talked about FCASW which surely the French would want to be Sylver compatible too what el...

I simply don't buy into the view of UK manufacturing draws expenditure back into UK coffers, (it might do), but those coffers are separate from the MOD budget, so your defence budget buys you less and less and the military continue to contract in an ever decreasing death spiral.... If the MoD budge...

From memory there was an option to get two more Tides, but the yard went bust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanwha_Ocean South Korea handles 30-40% of all of the worlds shipbuilding and the yard we contracted is one of the "big 3" inside Korea so it would be a big hit if they were lost. T...

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if any of the T31 design requests were later compromised. I'd agree it is reaching to suggest some of the T31 budget was preallocated for NSM or Mk41 launchers. However you spoil your post by your closing comment. The parent design is Mk41 capable, the versions of ...

A silly attempt to rewrite history. I'm not rewriting history George Osbourne and the treasury were front and centre for the 2015 SDSR which lead to T31. What I'm saying is that that was eight years, six chancellors, four prime ministers, an integrated review and integrated review refresh and umpte...

T32 is just T31 batch 2 listen to Adm Radikin rather than BAE.

What is Argus made from? It is a shame we didn't take up her sister too. They don't build them like that anymore.

Incorrect. The budget was fixed by Geo Osborne and his merry troupe of Whitehall warriors in the Treasury. Lot's of good and useful stuff did not fit that budget. Hence the type 31's only being useful for fighting pirates and flying its flag while hosting embassy parties. George Osbourne hasn't bee...

Incorrect. The budget was fixed by Geo Osborne and his merry troupe of Whitehall warriors in the Treasury. Lot's of good and useful stuff did not fit that budget. Hence the type 31's only being useful for fighting pirates and flying its flag while hosting embassy parties. George Osbourne hasn't bee...