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by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 21:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Also, you are completely ignoring the threat today, let alone the future. Even with some of the unfunded bells and whistles people want to add to the GP T31 it will not be enough. These ships have been designed to run away gracefully, nothing more. I believe the correct term is "bravely run aw...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 21:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

To be clearer I meant the new long ranged SMART-L-EWC (Early Warning Capability) Radar in addition to Artisan. Adding Sampson is an option I guess but suspect the addition of the two will increase top weight too much, plus the fact it will not be able to be positioned high like the T45 means it’s n...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I guess you are proposing to use CEC to control SM-6? In other words, using T31 only as a Mk41 arsenal and SMART-L radar picket? In that case, there is a US destroyer there. In a theater as small as Red Sea, why not the US Destroyer just do the job? "The Americans will do it" is an old mi...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I assume you meant “isn’t the best answer” - in which case the RN is saying. Given the PIP upgrades the RN wouldn’t be sending their only active AAW destroyer without good cause. Sorry you've lost me now you were busy knocking down a strawman that nobody was suggesting. I was just stating the facts...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:32
Forum: British Army
Topic: Ground Based Air Defence
Replies: 700
Views: 196355
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Re: Ground Based Air Defence

Martlet refers to the Wildcat/LMM capability according the Navy...i.e. the system as a whole. A Wildcat armed with LMM becomes Martlet...obviously the names hark back to the Grumman F4F fighter names in RN service in WW2... First time I've seen that claim anywhere. The manufacturer seems to think t...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:18
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5489
Views: 1546789
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

But, HMS Endurance was not hit. Task for River B2 there is to be an OPV, not as an escort. Contribute to day-by-day presence. More similar to River B1/B2 "escorting" Russian cruisers in the Channel. Of course, even if it is T23 frigate escorting the Russian cruiser, T23 will NOT survive t...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:17
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 5489
Views: 1546789
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Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Argentina is in no fit state to attempt another invasion. The military is severely curtailed compared to 1982 and the country is in economic dire straits. Current inflation rate is 287%. They introduced a new 2,000 peso bank note which is worth £1.86.
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1900
Views: 252921
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

It’s alright we will throw a cocktail party next time we visit… That’s right diplomacy is the answer - sending a warship because China is investing money seems rather overdoing it don’t you think. I would have thought an economic, trade and investment plan might have been more appropriate. Fair - d...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 20:03
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1900
Views: 252921
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

new guy wrote: 20 Apr 2024, 09:34
tomuk wrote: 20 Apr 2024, 01:05

Montserrat Pop. 4300 GDP £150m
Anguilla Pop. 16,000 GDP £250m
And?
Just pointing out how small and largely irrelevant lots of the remaining BOTS are.
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 19:59
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)
Replies: 89
Views: 12951
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Re: Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS)

serge750 wrote: 20 Apr 2024, 19:37 I'm pleasantly surprised by them commiting (?) to 6 ships ! as said Argos should be replaced first but after that ???? bays are newer, but, Albions require more crew ......
Bays are currently in use, Albions are laid up unusable. Surely you replace the out of use ships first.
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 19:56
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: Directed Energy Weapons
Replies: 57
Views: 5369
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Re: Directed Energy Weapons

Despite your panicked introduction of a bunch of red herrings, the basic point was that the WR-21 was not adequately tested because of Hoon's decision to close Pyestock. That lack of testing lead directly to the failures of the ships when in service. I know you will respond with more nonsense as yo...
by tomuk
20 Apr 2024, 01:05
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General UK Defence Discussion
Replies: 1900
Views: 252921
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Re: General UK Defence Discussion

new guy wrote: 19 Apr 2024, 23:36
A stones through away from the BOTS of Montserrat and Anguilla.
Montserrat Pop. 4300 GDP £150m
Anguilla Pop. 16,000 GDP £250m
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 18:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

• Captas 4 for T31s and Captas 2 for the RB2s. What would the point of a towed array on the RB2s be? T31 can either carry weapons it self or an armed helicopter to prosecute the sub, what is a River meant to do? Scare it way just by pinging away on its sonar? A valid tactic I suppose. If they were ...
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 18:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What have we seen in the Red Sea a massive use of cheap and not so cheap drones. This doesn't appear to be an odd occurrence going forward. To have ships capable of dealing with it at non budget blowing price would seem to me to be a very strategic choice. What we have seen in the Red Sea is the va...
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 18:09
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Labour's likely defence policy
Replies: 97
Views: 912
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Re: Labour's likely defence policy

NHS funding isn't in disarray it is higher than it has ever been, and that includes billions added by the Tories. Most cuts in government spending in the 14 years have been LAs, who are responsible for social care and the roads. That's such a false representation. The NHS is under increasing pressu...
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 16:31
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Also, you are completely ignoring the threat today, let alone the future. Even with some of the unfunded bells and whistles people want to add to the GP T31 it will not be enough. These ships have been designed to run away gracefully, nothing more. I believe the correct term is "bravely run aw...
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 16:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Two or three T31 for the same £1bn depending on how they are configured would add a lot more. Such a cheap T31, 330 GBP a pop, cannot do any good AAW. I am half a way between you two. I agree there is a clear need for 5 cheap GP frigates. But do not think 10 will be needed. If such money is there f...
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 16:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5669
Views: 1484558
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Let’s not forget the inflation. Significant it is, especially from late 2022. If comparing cost figures, we need to “correct” them. It's extremely hard to calculate the inflation in defense procurement. Using the governments inflation rate that's calculated by tracking the cost of a basket of domes...
by tomuk
19 Apr 2024, 16:13
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Labour's likely defence policy
Replies: 97
Views: 912
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Re: Labour's likely defence policy

NHS funding isn't in disarray it is higher than it has ever been, and that includes billions added by the Tories. Most cuts in government spending in the 14 years have been LAs, who are responsible for social care and the roads. That's such a false representation. The NHS is under increasing pressu...
by tomuk
18 Apr 2024, 23:36
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Repulse wrote: 18 Apr 2024, 22:40 No need to make up classes just for the sake of it.
:roll:
by tomuk
18 Apr 2024, 22:33
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 19360
Views: 9715034
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Why accept this position as given? Other yards building modules, hell with support could even build complete T26s under licence. Equally T83s can be built by multiple yards. What yards could build a complete T26 under license in the UK? Babcock - Possible. In theory but would two direct competitors...
by tomuk
18 Apr 2024, 20:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Labour's likely defence policy
Replies: 97
Views: 912
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Re: Labour's likely defence policy

RunningStrong wrote: 18 Apr 2024, 18:46 They're a result of central government choices.
None of those choices have been made or at least informed by senior NHS executives like former Chief Exec of NHS England Sir Simon Stevens and his cadre?
by tomuk
18 Apr 2024, 20:06
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Labour's likely defence policy
Replies: 97
Views: 912
United Kingdom

Re: Labour's likely defence policy

Have you looked at the rest of the Shrewsbury and Telford Trust its a dumpster fire and it isn't the only trust like it either in NHS England as for Scotland and Wales, well. You are in complete denial. Denial of what exactly? Because I'm all for pointing out the failings of the NHS, fire away by a...
by tomuk
18 Apr 2024, 20:01
Forum: British Army
Topic: RBSL Challenger 3 (Future) Main Battle Tank (British Army)
Replies: 357
Views: 75524
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Re: RBSL Challenger 3 (Future) Main Battle Tank (British Army)

sol wrote: 18 Apr 2024, 19:13
Is somebody going to tell him that the gun is from the fatherland rather than Nottingham?
by tomuk
18 Apr 2024, 19:57
Forum: Joint Service
Topic: Directed Energy Weapons
Replies: 57
Views: 5369
United Kingdom

Re: Directed Energy Weapons

PS still think that debugging a system on a deployed warship isn't the smartest idea around. After all, that was the approach taken with the Type 45 propulsion system. Saved oodles on money not testing it out onshore first. (Buff)Hoon must be very proud :roll: Type 45 propulsion system was tested o...