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by Poiuytrewq
24 Nov 2022, 19:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I think it ignores the fact that the carrier groups offensive weapons are basically a 500lb free fall bomb and that’s how it will remain for a number of years. So adding modern anti ship/ land attack missiles to the escorts is overdue. Adding a NSM capability to the T31/T32 won’t reduce the strike ...
by Poiuytrewq
24 Nov 2022, 14:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Multi-Role Ocean Surveillance Ships
Replies: 85
Views: 12443
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Re: Multi-Role Ocean Surveillance Ships

Could these new plans to enhance our shared security include a Kongsberg design for the second MROSS like RRS SDA?

by Poiuytrewq
24 Nov 2022, 14:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

We can take this one step further if Type 31 were to get the Mk-41 like the 1st SL has nodded at then we could have a pair of T31's with 16 x NSM , 16 to 32 x Tomahawk Blk-V and 3 to 4 helicopters this would give the ship an attack range of 1000 miles 360 degree around the ship or to put it another...
by Poiuytrewq
23 Nov 2022, 20:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

I'm not saying T31 is an ideal asset. Just saying T31 can actually do something, contribute to UK. Absolutely, lots of potential but will it be realised. For example, T31 is commissioned with 24 CAMM plus 57mm/40mm and NS100. It’s about as basic as it gets. What if each T31 is also FFBNW up to 16 N...
by Poiuytrewq
23 Nov 2022, 14:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Great news but where does that leave the Mk41s on the T26?

Why 11 sets?

Type45 plus the T31s?

A T31 with NSM would be starting to get there and it would show the idea of Patrol Frigates was a concept for a different era.
by Poiuytrewq
18 Nov 2022, 16:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It's been explained that there was not time for any kind of meaningful design work. That left a candidate list of one. Not even enough time to add a hangar which was a Navy desire. True for the first three hulls but not the second two. BAE/HMG/MoD and RN had two years to incorporate a hanger in the...
by Poiuytrewq
18 Nov 2022, 13:51
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

It will be interesting to see what infrastructure H&W gets for £77m in Belfast.
by Poiuytrewq
18 Nov 2022, 12:37
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

……more credibly 5 x Avenger's (the stretched River Class). More ship for the money, better prepared for unmanned ops for the future but not a massive increase in running cost or manning. Exactly. The RB2s were a bad decision. They are working efficiently but it’s a missed opportunity and RN must ta...
by Poiuytrewq
17 Nov 2022, 12:21
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1831
Views: 495268
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Re: Future Solid Support Ship

In conclusion, UK shipbuilding will collapse again around 2035-2040. Too pessimistic IMO. The one aspect your analysis consistently misses is UK political reality. Shipbuilding in the UK is massively inefficient but due to political reasons it has to remain that way. The megayard concept is clearly...
by Poiuytrewq
17 Nov 2022, 09:45
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1831
Views: 495268
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Re: Future Solid Support Ship

It looks like H&W for FSS then Amphibs (then QE refit option?) CL for the second MROSS which should be a clone of RSS SDA, and refit work, and blocks Scotland for Frigates Barrow for Subs Appledore for OPVs and smaller (Border patrol cutters?) Something like this: Govan/Scotstoun: T26 followed ...
by Poiuytrewq
16 Nov 2022, 20:57
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1831
Views: 495268
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Re: Future Solid Support Ship

… not putting too much pressure on H&W Belfast. Its a bit more distributed than that with H&W’s sites at Belfast, Appledore, Methil and Arnish involved. Lots of capacity if the workforce can be found. The workshare for Cadiz will be the interesting part but IMO ensuring that the 3 FSS commi...
by Poiuytrewq
16 Nov 2022, 14:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 1831
Views: 495268
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Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Good thing over for the RN and UK ship building but got to say that is one ugly design IMO :lol: Actually I quite like it. Highly efficient in terms of replenishing the CVF’s which has to be the priority. Big day for Belfast with £77m invested in infrastructure but shame Cammell Laird isn’t involved.
by Poiuytrewq
14 Nov 2022, 23:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5065
Views: 1352195
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Jensy wrote: 14 Nov 2022, 23:16 I wonder how much lower BAE could go than £840m, if given an additional order.
Good question but also how much would a Batch3 T26 cost when compared to a T31 and T32 with similar weapons and sensors?

Looks like having competition in the UK escort building sector is actually working.
by Poiuytrewq
14 Nov 2022, 08:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 14302
Views: 4115869
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Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Maybe need to double up on the loyal wingman UAVs….
by Poiuytrewq
12 Nov 2022, 06:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5065
Views: 1352195
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Mast for HMS Cardiff on the way.

by Poiuytrewq
07 Nov 2022, 21:09
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: National Flagship for Britain
Replies: 144
Views: 12754
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Re: National Flagship for Britain

No surprise but time to turbocharge the MROSS procurement now.

The National Flagship was due to be operational by 2025. Hopefully the MROSS will retain the same build schedule.
by Poiuytrewq
06 Nov 2022, 19:52
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 15685
Views: 3476083
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Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

[Then, why not do it from now? How about much higher salary for higher retention rate? Of course, it costs a lot and money must be found. If there is no such money for a moment, there is of course zero money for T32. This is what I am saying. No crew will be required for the T32s much before 2030. ...
by Poiuytrewq
06 Nov 2022, 09:55
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 908
Views: 315880
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Re: Type 23 Frigate (Duke Class) (RN) [News Only]

As the crew of Montrose will fill the T23 coming back fromLIFEX, your argument also states number of active escorts will not decrease. As such I think RN priority is more on man power, especially the retention rate. Buying ammo comes the next. T32 discussion must be terminated, I think. Priority is...
by Poiuytrewq
04 Nov 2022, 09:49
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]
Replies: 5065
Views: 1352195
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Re: Type 26 Frigate (City Class) (RN) [News Only]

Little chance of the T32 going to Govan based on current performance and cost controls.

Also probably doesn’t help The Team UK bid for the FSS.

Sad to watch the inefficiency continue.
by Poiuytrewq
31 Oct 2022, 18:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 437
Views: 160045
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Re: Future ASW

Interesting development.

https://www.navylookout.com/the-kingfis ... -munition/

Another good reason for the T32 to have the Mk45 :D
by Poiuytrewq
31 Oct 2022, 00:03
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 855
Views: 264968
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

The three B1 Rivers need replacing them I’d argue 4 at least to compliment the other unmanned MCM capable platforms. We’d be towards 2035 by then on a one per year drum beat so just in time for B2 replacements. Current planning has the Three RB1s being replaced by three RB2s. The other two RB2s wou...
by Poiuytrewq
29 Oct 2022, 11:46
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)
Replies: 855
Views: 264968
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Re: Mine countermeasures and Hydrographic capability (MHC) (MHPC)

It’s not that small it’s the same size as the rivers and near 3000 tonnes in displacement. It really shouldn’t be small. It needs to be globally deployable and have a hanger if they are to be used for HADR and Maritime Security. Offboard systems will continue to evolve and get bigger. Any replaceme...