…cannot find the source, but I remember it is 18knots top speed. 892A3E38-F601-4F97-B40A-14F1DE1DC43B.jpeg Will be a good candidate for both Caribbean patrol, Gibraltar patrol (visiting west Africa), and also for MRSS. I like to see "some of" the MRSS being this kind of vessels. Completel...

….will that create more of an issue as the next time a war goes hot the RM will likely find themselves in the same situation serving alongside the army. Lots of possible negatives but the one major positive is the ability to thoroughly test, under realistic conditions, a medium capacity 6.5mm. I wo...

We seem to be conflating RB1 replacement with P2000 replacement. Also worth considering the possibility of a wider role. Each floodable well dock in the Albions can accommodate two vessels of 60mX7.5m or 4x 30mX7.5m. The Bays can accommodate one vessels 30mX7.5m or 4x 15mX3.5m (CIC) Obviously draft...

I agree that what you have proposed looks achievable in the short term but for the future 1st Div just looks too light. IMO, by 2030, 3rd Div should form around CH3 , Ajax, K-9A3 , M270a2 plus either upgraded Warrior or a Warrior replacement. The money must be found. 1st Div should primarily form a...

It will be interesting to see if the UK does.... In the end it will become logistical spaghetti so a solution will have to be found. I hope the US can make it work but it will be new tech if they can. I don’t think it’s completely impossible that a Euro calibre could be adopted as an offshoot of PE...

Like I've said before, there needs to be a full, open and unbiased NATO trial for a new calibre. The last 2 have been US biased and haven't really been successful, lets try and avoid the hat-trick. If penetration is the primary concern then long thin projectiles driven at high velocity is the way t...

Well this is very close to what I have been asking for - for sometime but for this to work one Cavalry unit and one Artillery unit will need to move from the 3rd to the 1st It absolutely is, well done for calling it. It’s progress but it must just be the first phase of the complete rebuild of the A...

All very interesting....but am still awaiting an explanation of why our carriers are unique in not having a missile and cannon defence. PWLS was escorted by USS Oscar Austin plus it’s highly likely that a SSN was accompanying. What threat are you concerned about that such escort(s) couldn’t handle?

Have you shot 338? The recoil isn't going to kill you, it's quite manageable. It’s not exactly a pussycat, manageable but far from ideal, especially when firing from awkward positions. Out to 600m what are you gaining unless it’s anti-material. More weight, more recoil, more bullet drop, less accur...

But arguably more important. Depends how it’s measured. It’s only a credible comparison if all the variables are identical. For example, were both rifle printing identical groups sizes at 100m before pushing out to 400m 800m and 1000m? Even a tiny difference at 100m between the rifles such 1MOA vs ...

…the third flattop…. If Govan keep building Tier1 escorts at an 18 month drumbeat (£7bn per decade) and Rosyth stop the T31 build at 8x hulls around 2031 it gives RN £5bn to build non escort vessels at Rosyth and Belfast between 2031-2041. A third flattop would be a real possibility if RN took that...

Thank you. Very interesting results. Hit probability isn’t technically the same as accuracy but if the wind drift and recoil is reduced it will absolutely improve hit probability. …increasing effective range by nearly half… This seems like the most unbelievable statement as the rounds are ballistica...

jedibeeftrix wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023, 12:39

Poiuytrewq wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023, 11:10 The FADS system if it works could change everything.

what is the FADS system?

Early days

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/ds ... dominance/

Good news - everyone can breathe a sigh of relief. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/09/23/labour-defence-america-special-relationship-nato-election/ Can you please Copy and paste article contents please. Labour: ‘You can trust us on defence. We are committed to Nato and US leadership’ Two ...

…6.5mm Creedmoor for their limited number of semi-auto sniper rifles which give better accuracy and range than the 7.62… I agree with the most of what you have written apart from this part. The 6.5CM will not necessarily give better accuracy. Accuracy is dependent on many variables but if those var...

Nope. Still a bullet. They aren’t even nearly comparable. The rifles are totally different. The ballistics are completely different. The training requirements due to the recoil are totally different and the rate of fire is totally different. To operate a 338lapua to its full potential it requires t...

…costs are unlikely to be flat… In which case one of the three yards will go bust. The drumbeat works both ways, money in, ships out. You can make it as complicated as you want but in the simplest terms, if you don’t feed the shipbuilding industry there will very quickly be no industry to feed. £1....

Good news - everyone can breathe a sigh of relief.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -election/

Then why compromise with 6.5CM? Give them .338 the best they can get. Totally different ball game. Missing by a smaller margin is called suppressing fire, and it's often an acceptable outcome at significant ranges. Suppressing fire is best provided by the minimi and GPMG. The designated marksman is...

….the fact that we are already ordering another 27, we will not cap it at 48. Has the tranche 2 F35b order actually been made? Or has a commitment to order another 27x F35 somethings been made? It’s not the same thing and it’s nearly a decade away. Much can change. A new government could cancel it ...

More progress

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... port-ships

I know. But, it is also "commonality" was not required. If required, MOD should have been finding vessels that meet the requirement. Commonality is great but sometimes it’s another word for bespoke. Bespoke is another word for very expensive and not readily available. When operating comme...

If you were asking for an alternative to tempest… Push Tempest as far as it will go but it’s the money that will ensure success or failure. As long as the entire defence budget doesn’t start to disappear into a Tempest black hole then great. Is Tempest and AUKUS just too ambitious to run simultaneo...

It's a drain on logistics is the obvious reason why. He wasn't criticising the round itself. If the LMG's are equipped with 7.62 what is going to happen when the designated marksman needs resupplied with 6.5 and all he can find is crates of 7.62? Is it obvious? Do you want your designated marksman ...

Sure, plan B, buy a bulk amount of F-35's, but GCAP must maintain first and formost. That’s the point. The UK is supposedly going to lead on GCAP whilst simultaneously purchasing 138x F35b. Not realistic. If the priority is Tempest until Tempest isn’t the priority then where does that leave the F35...