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by ArmChairCivvy
22 Sep 2019, 11:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549314
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

SW1 wrote: It the ultimate expression of frustration at the process that has resulted in type45, carriers, type 26 and opv contracts

Agree with the line of thinking, but spot the odd one out: ie. how does the carrier contract fall in with that company?
by ArmChairCivvy
22 Sep 2019, 10:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549314
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The real cost of the Arrowhead 140 is why I question what we’ve chosen for the T31. Picking the A140 is risky for RN. Here I disagree. It is about getting the hulls in the water, maintaining trained manpower, seeing if there is any defence budget left (at all :D ) after all the incidental Brexit co...
by ArmChairCivvy
22 Sep 2019, 10:15
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Voldemort wrote:Norway bought 24 K9s and 6 K10s for 215 MUSD


Did Finland get a sneaky volume discount ;) (though officially the deals were not "bundled")?
by ArmChairCivvy
22 Sep 2019, 09:15
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549314
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

This was not in the brochure, neither does it answer the max missile load question, but is indicative of the growth potential (DefenceNews interview in 2016): "upgrade at least one of the Danish Navy's Iver Huitfeldt- class frigates to a BMD sensor role. The underlying intention is to offer thi...
by ArmChairCivvy
22 Sep 2019, 08:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549314
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

not (currently) getting 8, you're getting 5 security Frigates Operative word: currently. The dominos will fall like this: - the split in the T26 production run; when will it move from ASW to AAW... and even then one can hop back to the other version. If "facts" ie. threats change substant...
by ArmChairCivvy
21 Sep 2019, 10:36
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3280.html The interesting bit is what they have brought over, from improvements made to (G)MLRS: "Late in 2003, Israel Military Industries announced that it had successfully completed flight tests for its trajectory correction system for the Lockheed Martin...
by ArmChairCivvy
21 Sep 2019, 10:30
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549314
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Repulse wrote:10 C1, 8 C2 and 12 C3
x 0.8? If you get fractions, round C2 up and (in money terms) take as much away from C3
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 17:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5669
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

Indeed, the larger, new gun on only two classes, as follows: "Type 26 ASW Frigate 127mm Mk45 in A mount Type 31 GP Light Frigate 127mm Mk45 in A mount" Expensive, as we saw fro Oz purchase, and later from our own (both included a 'training set') - we should only put it onto ships that are ...
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 17:08
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182235
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

Both the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force are suffering form a lack of new recruits in technical trades and in the retention of existing personnel. Incentives ... what a good idea! As we have discussed the Gurkha Bde initiative (to roll back, from the follies of the 2010 Review) on that thread in som...
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 11:28
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182235
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

SW1 wrote:seems a bit odd no more than 3 have been ordered does it not.


No, but the vagueness about the dates past the first one does. All we have, to go by, is BAE stating what they think they could do
- hence I raised this on the NSS thread
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 11:25
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5669
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

Dare I say it, maybe it would be better use of resources if we didn't put the 5inch guns ordered on the type 26, and put them on the type 31 instead (could argue that goes for some of the other general purpose items on the type 26 such as some of the mk41 silos), where there is more chance of them ...
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 09:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5669
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

to allow the T26 ASW's to protect the CSG, LitM and conduct TAPS. If the T31's are replacing the T23's GP's instead of the originally proposed T26 GP's Yes, let's try to answer the question by rolling forward, to 2028. Surely the answer is neither "no NFGS" nor one of the [ see what I did...
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 09:02
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Voldemort wrote: The original question just seemed a bit open ended.


I looked back and agree; already when typing I knew that something went wrong when I put a comma before "that"
- but hey-ho, if I worried about that sort of thing, there would not be 10348 posts here
- and on substance we seem to agree
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 06:26
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

I guess you answered the question, then?
by ArmChairCivvy
20 Sep 2019, 06:16
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182235
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

scale back the flag waving to suit your budget. Atlantic/carriers the rest is a none core nice to have. So no need pretending the opv is anything other than an opv I am with the thought, but would disagree about the Gulf (plus the adjoining parts ... all the way to DG... of the Indian Ocean) not be...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 22:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2954
Views: 182235
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

now saying saying we need to spend money to up gun river opv’s because we’re short frigates, yet have billions of pounds worth of frigates and destroyers mothballed or tied up Yes. Let's face it. T23s have been 'world cruising' and a lot of the time without the ASW crew -perhaps even w/o the kit - ...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 22:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10472
Views: 549314
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

GiGS/Med [1], Horn of Africa [1], Singapore [1] Fairly sensible overall, but - why do we need a Gib "warship"? - and [add double quotation marks] what is such a vessel supposed to achieve in the areas close to Singapore ... so two, stricken off. Means that we can rotate between B1s, to ke...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 21:34
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349513
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

The magic with AESA however is that your can "steer the beam" so you don't lose your tracks even if you stop the rotation of the radar) Times are a-changing; from having to stop the radar (turning) on RN frigates to see if soft soft kill worked, and then - plenty quick - get it turning ag...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 20:20
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

more likely allied formation would slot in behind the Brigade sooner. Aware that the Anglo-Danish division has been reinstated - I believe the 3rd bde in it is Polish? The UK is working with a blank sheet of paper with the Strike Brigades, and is working to work out what support they will need and ...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 16:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5669
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

donald_of_tokyo wrote: If possible, I push for having 2nd 57mm gun on top of the hangar Push, push... and push! If there are any moment to "push", it is now. Because now is the timing the final decision on T31 armaments is taking place. :thumbup: The T26 is defiantly built with NGFS in min...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 16:16
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

Less capable off-road in soft terrain (such as post counter battery...), inability to traverse dense areas (no neutral steer ability, longer turning circle), unable to simply crush obstacles, slower set up, slower pull down, slower relocation. OK, may be, the first point is wrong, anyway: Is a mete...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 15:40
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5669
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

though there were plenty of 76mm guns, USN moved to 57mm (now). Also, they are very heavily investing on it (fut err, howabout the cancelling of appr. half of the order volume, bcz the 30 mm from another supplier could do more damage (ref: the trials... go and find them) The only merit 76mm has is ...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 14:01
Forum: British Army
Topic: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments
Replies: 115
Views: 9266
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Artillery/Royal Horse Artillery future developments

One suggestion is the Ajax "Screen" should be supported by either a variant of Ajax equipped with a NLOS type systems or again a simpler trailer mounted system towed behind a JLTV. Both, pls... could be for different types of formations. Joint Fires integrated with the screen and mounted ...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 06:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 110
Views: 5669
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

Going back to 1992 “Options for Change” for the post Cold War -era, and Royal Navy was to consist of - 3 small Aircraft carriers, - 2 amphibious assault ships plus 1 amphibious helicopter carrier, - about 40 Destroyers & Frigates, 34 mine countermeasures vessels, - 4 nuclear ballistic missile su...
by ArmChairCivvy
19 Sep 2019, 04:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6150
Views: 349513
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

However it was only extended to fit the type22s . The scaling back of the original extension adversely effected the type 23 design procurement causing the limited top weight stability in it original weapons fit precluding fitting of C.I.W.S. Talk about the cart and the horse! Top weight stability p...

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