UK Defence Forum

- don't ask me . Just read the accounting policies and DEFCONS... when I first tried to get my head around Mr Browns new accounting polices my headaches crippled me. I came to the conclusion was the M.O.D. paid from the procurement budget while the operational budget paid back the deprecation money...

Timmymagic wrote:All the evidence suggests that Outfit DEC never made it down to the Falklands in time, and was never used there. It may have gone South on a couple of ships relieving the task force at the end of the war

So some one removed them of Battleaxe type 22 as she was testing them before she sailed south.

eah, I remember the Argentinian pilots claiming to feel sick when they were close to our ships, so it could be something like that. But if we had tech more than 30 years ago, then surely there must be something better now? Know as laser dazzlers. Kept under wraps until HMS Andromeda entered port wi...

I would guess range finding/tracking lasers. Not the shoot `em down type. I m inclined to suggest that the navy retained the none lethal distraction lasers that we developed in the 1980s. Successfully kept quite until someone forgot to cover a frigate set up on entry to port. They effectively disor...

Whose piggy bank are they raiding to pay for them? To some it might sound stupid but our early eighties procured airframes have been progressively updated. ZA718 was unrecognisable from the airframe that I first saw in 1982. However the airframe will like all the early purchases will be life expire...

What is of concern that until IOT&E/F-35 In-A-Box' (FIAB) completed that any of the UK buy of current aircraft might not be able to be bought up to full specification or require expensively upgrades, making actual number of our limited buy of F-35 fully operational capable fewer still, presume ...

And a aerial video of Invergordon itself, if you're curious about it. I would of expected the tank farm that was part of the closed R.N. fuel depot twenty five years ago. Would have been removed along with the pumping house for Inchin down to the side of the church . The Cromlet tanks on the west s...

Interesting little ISO container on deck with a Air Conditioner sticking out the back. I suspect its to handle the telemetry data that the 17 squadron aircraft collect. There will probably be a lot more data in this set of trials. If with 17 sqn aircraft with possibly the U.S.M.C. aircraft includin...

t Supposedly it is being fast tracked as a high priority within the RN/MoD. . The problem is that the R.N. has high end carrier acting as L.P.H. and contractor owned and operated S,D. Victoria. Our L.P.D. were built without a embarked aviation capability because the were expected to work with a dedi...

The destruction of the silk worm was a priority. As the Iraq weapon had been upgraded as later examination of captured weapons showed . This gave the weapon a require capability so if weapon had been successfully decoyed by the battleship it would have reacquired a target. So the weapon posed a majo...

Ron5 wrote:I believe the RN is against the 76mm based on prior experience. Could be wrong. Otherwise thumbs up!

The R N wasn't agented the 76mm. It was the possible loss of the 4.5 on the type 23 as a treasury cost reduction during planning. This also caused the removal of the 4.5 limited A.A. ability.

4) Gibraltar squadron replacements? Small, and only 2 of them.... Given the procurement requirement the Gibraltar squadron replacements. The large range increase, speed , armament and operational requirement they could be between 30 - 45+ metre length. Built to patrol craft Lloyds naval standards. ...

I think you will find that all of the "12" will be for CSG defence. 6 additional F35's will not provide much in the way of Carrier "Strike", or "Enabled Power Projection". I suspect that the procurement plan for the F 35 will follow the original planning. When the carr...

Instead of FC radars (which are limited by how many "channels" can be simultaneously operated) SeaCeptor has simple black boxes for initial guidance from the ship (I presume the handover is final) towards the target location at launch time so that the radar on the missile itself, with not...

To be clear, I am referring to the building that allows frigates to be maintained under cover. The T23 was built to fit the building. When the frigate complex as extended the cost was initially proposed a larger extension to the extent of moving the road and demolishing some buildings. However it w...

4 boat bays is excessive. Not if your plan is to deploy remote craft in the medium to long term. I having sat in the room when the prevailing thought was what can we do . But remember we have to get it past the Treasury. If we were to delete two boat bays only to pay twice the cost to put them in a...

on where we are going to deploy our new B2's and what they are likely to face. What we now know is HMS Forth will be deployed to the Falklands and HMS Medway to AP-N. when Forth arrives in the Falklands she will be facing a Argentina that is rebuilding its Airforce and Navy so one needs to ask will...

The rumoured adoption of the 40mm weapon system on the T31 seems like an incredibly silly, very short sighted idea. Any benefits the weapon might offer, which actually seem to be fairly limited anyway, are more than offset by its drawbacks to my mind - particularly with regards to commonality and t...

If the type 31 procurement follow the early type 23 frigates with additional equipment fitted. we could have a good G P frigate eventually. By getting hulls in the water they incrementally increasing capability it should be possible to avoid the type 45 gym situation.

This could mean something like a converted container vessel, like that used post Falklands War would suffice for this role. As to the platform for conduction offensive amphibious operations, You have little practical knowledge of the problems of the Arapaho container system on Reliant. The conversi...

What we need to do is lease a North Sea Oil support vessel, paint it grey and have the RM on board. Those vessels are as tough as nails and have high pressure fire hoses or whatever they are called. The navy used to anchor rig tenders as interim patrol boats for the South Atlantic. Fitted with two ...

Old RN wrote:There are 15 F35Bs at Marham, so assuming you could get 12 deployed in emergency that would be a pretty effective force.

With a squadron of U.S. marines f35 would be more prudent.

And perhaps, the B2 Rivers, if they are to have a genuinely world-wide role - it seems like a logical upgrade to all existing 30mm mounts. Now if we can also develop a point-defence variant.... Having looked round the amazon's when stored in Devonshire dock Barrow in Furness, The fitting of two mou...

Just out of curiosity, how does the 3-watch system work with senior officers (and indeed other key/specialist staff for whom presumably there are only one or two posts per crew for a small lean-manned OPV). The navy used a three watch system on the Bird class patrol boats after comparisons done whe...

Timmymagic wrote:It looks great...but can't help but think it would look better in hemp...

As long as it doesn't come out brown like a one Nimrod xv 246 . A K A the flying t***.