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by Aethulwulf
17 Oct 2019, 16:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Solid Support Ship
Replies: 975
Views: 70647
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Solid Support Ship

Jane's is reporting that Navantia has offered block work to UK yards as part of their FSS bid.

Blocks could be built and outfitted and then sent to Spain.

Five UK shipyards have been consulted, but some cannot currently speak to Navantia due to their involvement with competing bids.
by Aethulwulf
14 Oct 2019, 17:50
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2992
Views: 203898
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

The latest rumours I hear is there are hopes that the 3 batch 1 River OPVs will have their funding extended to allow them to continue to operate in UK home waters to around 2027 (at which point they will 25 years old). This will allow the B2 OPVs to be forward deployed, first to the Falklands (Fort...
by Aethulwulf
14 Oct 2019, 11:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: River Class (OPV) (RN)
Replies: 2992
Views: 203898
Location: United Kingdom

Re: River Class (OPV) (RN)

The latest rumours I hear is there are hopes that the 3 batch 1 River OPVs will have their funding extended to allow them to continue to operate in UK home waters to around 2027 (at which point they will 25 years old). This will allow the B2 OPVs to be forward deployed, first to the Falklands (Forth...
by Aethulwulf
10 Oct 2019, 14:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Isn't the launch management cabinets (or Launch Management System LMS) capable to handle 12 CAMM each? Reference: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/rms/documents/naval-launchers-and-munitions/VLS_3_Cell_ExLS_Launcher_Product_Card_8.5x11_042419.pdf You might be right. But fo...
by Aethulwulf
10 Oct 2019, 14:14
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6177
Views: 389276
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

If understanding correctly MIRADOR only operational in daytime and fair weather as no radar, laser would not operate at night, in heavy rain, fog, snow, smoke etc to give necessary range info with the passive IR camera, whereas the STIR with its radar makes it a 24 hour all weather system. Though B...
by Aethulwulf
10 Oct 2019, 13:42
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

The current T23 Sea Ceptor fit of 32 missiles includes 2 command and control cabinets, and also 4 launch management cabinets (one for every 8 missiles). Across the 13 T23s, that would mean a total of 52 launch management cabinets. Eight T26s, each with 48 CAMM, would require a total of 48 launch man...
by Aethulwulf
10 Oct 2019, 12:26
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

From the various cgi hints and non-attributable press briefings, I think we can conclude the following options are still being debated for the T31: A.Types and numbers of guns B. E/O or E/O + Radar gun fire control C. Numbers of CAMM D. Possibility of HMS Given that there appears to be a debate, I w...
by Aethulwulf
09 Oct 2019, 18:12
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

So on the basis of nothing more than one fuzzy cgi image, you have decided it would be best to remove the primary defence from 40% of the T31 fleet. Pathetic. ?? I am proposing to increase the total number of CAMM missile carried on the 5 T31 fleet (from 12x5 =60 to 24x3 = 72). As my proposal is co...
by Aethulwulf
09 Oct 2019, 08:05
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

If one hits a rock, your finely wrought plan of one doing this and two doing that and so many doing something else again will just go down the crapper. With only 5 they have to be interchangeable to enable tasking to be doable. And for what? saving a few pennies on cheap as chips CAMM launchers. Gi...
by Aethulwulf
08 Oct 2019, 17:32
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Replies: 6177
Views: 389276
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]

From Jane's.... Sea change: Type 31 frigate decision sets a new course for UK naval procurement The UK’s decision to select an industry team led by Babcock as preferred bidder for the Royal Navy’s Type 31 frigate programme has marked a significant change in naval acquisition policy and practice. Ric...
by Aethulwulf
06 Oct 2019, 16:11
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future Littoral Strike Ships
Replies: 709
Views: 66399
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future Littoral Strike Ships

Yes CAMM is the better missile offering 360 degree area defence however for Albion and the Bay's to use it they will need radars and CMS upgrades = big costs where at this time SeaRam will just bolt on one of two Phalanx mounts plus it can be reloaded by the ships crew unlike CAMM. No the RN dose n...
by Aethulwulf
03 Oct 2019, 12:47
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)
Replies: 725
Views: 74181
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Tide Class Tankers (MARS) (RFA)

from "https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1179711179352084480" RFA Tidespring (with Phalanx now installed) seen from RRS Sir David Attenborough in the wet basin at CammellLaird Birkenhead I'm afraid the forward CIWS fire arc does not cover well for surface threats, because of the bulwa...
by Aethulwulf
01 Oct 2019, 11:22
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 872727
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

When did they say they were going to in the Pacfic again. hopefully it will be avalible for Tailsman Sabre, would be nice to see a combined Commonwealth battle group. The first operational deployment is scheduled for 2021, which is expected to include some time in the Pacific region. The next Talis...
by Aethulwulf
30 Sep 2019, 12:24
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 28052
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

The T26 isn't just a credible ASW, it was designed to over-match likely tier 1 submarine opposition in terms of detection range. This is partly why it is so expensive.

No way T31 could achieve this level.
by Aethulwulf
29 Sep 2019, 15:10
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Babcock also refit frigates and nuclear submarines. They know all about fitting out complex warships.
by Aethulwulf
29 Sep 2019, 12:06
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Changes before a contract is signed are fine, provided they can be afforded.

Changes after the contract has been signed are the real killer, which MOD needs to avoid if at all possible.
by Aethulwulf
28 Sep 2019, 08:23
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

Regarding the Gibraltar Sqn, one possible design is the 19m version of the Barracuda from Safehaven Marine. (see http://www.gibraltarpanorama.gi/163090 and https://www.safehavenmarine.com/barracuda-19m ) Safehaven Marine also have designs for the Barracuda in the 11-13m size, that would fit within t...
by Aethulwulf
26 Sep 2019, 16:44
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 28052
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

There is zero chance of adding USV based ASW capability to T31, as you say. As this is future ASW thread, and many here (including me) think adding shallow water ASW is meaningful, my proposal comes in. I did not say there is zero chance of adding USV based ASW capability to T31. What I said is tha...
by Aethulwulf
26 Sep 2019, 10:58
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Future ASW
Replies: 367
Views: 28052
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Future ASW

The Arrowhead 140 in its T31 guise continues to be a superbly capable design completely hamstrung by a woefully inadequate budget. I guess it is upside-down. Arrowhead 140 as a T31 is adopting very large hull, which is incompatible with its cost. I hope RN knows it. To be upgraded for normal escort...
by Aethulwulf
24 Sep 2019, 18:29
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion
Replies: 10499
Views: 872727
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

Spoke to a senior RAF officer at last years Remembrance Day, who was the bastion of OPSEC, couldn’t get any scoops from him. What he did offer to me after a few beers was that in his personal opinion the F35 negated the need for Poseidon. Still getting my head around this. Hmmm, I was unaware of pl...
by Aethulwulf
23 Sep 2019, 16:41
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 10582
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Royal Navy Gunnery Discussion

There are more ways than one to skin a cat. The primary ASuW weapon of the T31 will be the armed Wildcat. Ship mounted 30mm, 40mm or 57mm guns are the second tier of ASuW defences. The primary AAW weapon of the T31 will be Sea Ceptor. Ship mounted Phalanx, 40mm or 57mm guns are the second tier of AA...
by Aethulwulf
22 Sep 2019, 23:53
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

What is really hate about the T-26 is that of the three nations who are going to put it into service, it is the Royal Navy that will have the fewest and most likely least capable. This is made worse by the size of the budgets and economies that both Canada and Australia have compared to the UK, eve...
by Aethulwulf
22 Sep 2019, 20:54
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

https://www.janes.com/article/87175/indonesia-leans-towards-iver-huitfeldt-class-for-frigate-acquisition Of course what this means for Arrowhead 140 is not yet clear... Quite - if the T31(e) was supposed to be, at least partially, about exports, going with the AH140 is surely a mistake. Why would p...
by Aethulwulf
22 Sep 2019, 13:20
Forum: Royal Navy
Topic: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion
Replies: 10628
Views: 614011
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Current & Future Escorts - General Discussion

However the Type 31 program is not without its money questions i.e the fact we paid 3 companies 5 million pounds for design work this lead to two good ship designs with the winning bid from Babcocks and a well developed design that BAE can still push so money well spent in my book . But as for the ...

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