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clivestonehouse1
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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby clivestonehouse1 » 11 Sep 2019, 08:11

jimthelad wrote:Better to go down the Finnish route and rework the GPMG. Don't mess with perfection !
The GPMG has been the workhorse for many years and has always delivered the goods.
If it ain't broke.......

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby jimthelad » 11 Sep 2019, 08:26

totally agree, but if we could lose the 1.5kg the Finns seem to have done then perfection becomes deified!!!!

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby Voldemort » 11 Sep 2019, 09:07

jimthelad wrote:totally agree, but if we could lose the 1.5kg the Finns seem to have done then perfection becomes deified!!!!


We have done what now? Finland uses PKM.

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby Andy-M » 11 Sep 2019, 09:13

jimthelad wrote:totally agree, but if we could lose the 1.5kg the Finns seem to have done then perfection becomes deified!!!!


Are you sure you don't mean Sweden?

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 11 Sep 2019, 15:41

Andy-M wrote:Are you sure you don't mean Sweden?

Their 6.5? Universal caliber - the holy grail - that was done away with, a while back?

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby Andy-M » 11 Sep 2019, 17:00

ArmChairCivvy wrote:
Andy-M wrote:Are you sure you don't mean Sweden?

Their 6.5? Universal caliber - the holy grail - that was done away with, a while back?


thought you meant the Ksp 58 DF, about half way down this link, they shortened the FN MAG.

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/u ... /ksp58.htm

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby ArmChairCivvy » 11 Sep 2019, 17:14

Andy-M wrote:
ArmChairCivvy wrote:
Andy-M wrote:Are you sure you don't mean Sweden?

Their 6.5? Universal caliber - the holy grail - that was done away with, a while back?


thought you meant the Ksp 58 DF, about half way down this link, they shortened the FN MAG.

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/u ... /ksp58.htm


Sorry, I did not know that they had converted some (or all, 3000 that would make) into the 7.62 x 51 from KSP 58 with 6,5x55 mm (originally). At the time also their ARs were using the same ammo
- The Finnish light MG from only a couple of years later was spewing out the short 7.62 at the rate of 1000 rpm - so effectively an escape weapon (carried by recce teams, to break contact)

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby jimthelad » 11 Sep 2019, 17:34

Sorry, getting my Scandinavians mixed up!!!

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Re: Section infantry weapons

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby Little J » 14 Sep 2019, 08:47

Textron's entry into the NGSW programme...
(tried attaching photo, but "Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached")
Check out the rifle, It looks a bit... Erm, cumbersome would be the polite way to put it.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... rototypes/

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby Lord Jim » 14 Sep 2019, 14:35

I wonder if anything will actually result form this programme? There is a well publicised history of the US Military trying to field the ultimate small arms with $Bns spent so far. he fact that each submission also included its own take on the desired 6.8mm ammo doesn't bode well in my books. Surely it would b better if they actually designed and agreed on a single ammo type and then went about designing weapons to use it.

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Re: Section infantry weapons

Postby bobp » 17 Sep 2019, 05:24

Seems like the SA80A3 model is going ahead

https://www.defense-aerospace.com/artic ... tract.html


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