The T23 is Steel, they tried aluminium in the 70's with the T21 and everyone watched in horror as T21's burnt like an uncontrollable holocaust in the Falklands as the aluminium caught fire and simply burnt down to the waterline.....
Lessons learnt.
The T23 is Steel, they tried aluminium in the 70's with the T21 and everyone watched in horror as T21's burnt like an uncontrollable holocaust in the Falklands as the aluminium caught fire and simply burnt down to the waterline.....
As a side note, folks who guess should be careful not to present their thoughts as fact.The air weapons magazine is sited forward of the hangar on 1 Deck to avoid the cost of a weapons lift. The arrangement has also allowed for the torpedo tubes to be incorporated into the magazine and a semi-automatic air weapons handling system is being developed for this magazine. The gap between the air weapons magazine and the upper deck machinery space (containing diesel generators etc.) will provide a firebreak as well as athwartships access. The upper deck machinery space was chosen to reduce the extent of noise reduction measures required and hence the cost. Early arrangements without a hangar had all 4 diesel generators sited on l Deck. The gap forward of the downtakes provides the necessary clear area aft of the excited foremast, a removal route for the forward diesel generators, and a RAS dumping area.
Do you have an attribution for your quote?Ron5 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2023, 13:34 Digger gets the prize for the closest guess. Stealth and hangover from an hangar-less design are incorrect.
From the Type 23 architects:
As a side note, folks who guess should be careful not to present their thoughts as fact.The air weapons magazine is sited forward of the hangar on 1 Deck to avoid the cost of a weapons lift. The arrangement has also allowed for the torpedo tubes to be incorporated into the magazine and a semi-automatic air weapons handling system is being developed for this magazine. The gap between the air weapons magazine and the upper deck machinery space (containing diesel generators etc.) will provide a firebreak as well as athwartships access. The upper deck machinery space was chosen to reduce the extent of noise reduction measures required and hence the cost. Early arrangements without a hangar had all 4 diesel generators sited on l Deck. The gap forward of the downtakes provides the necessary clear area aft of the excited foremast, a removal route for the forward diesel generators, and a RAS dumping area.
As a second note, aluminum didn't burn in the Falklands but it did lose some structural integrity due to the extreme heat.
Great, thanks for share.
No both the SeaCeptor antennas are still fitted on the bridge and hangar, they are the thimble like domes.donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 13:46 HMS Montrose, almost all gears other than the 4.5 inch gun is ripped off. I'm sure her SeaCeptor datalink antenna is ripped off, and CAMM Launch Management Boxed (said to be 4 of them), as well.
I guess only the radome remains?tomuk wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 20:58No both the SeaCeptor antennas are still fitted on the bridge and hangar, they are the thimble like domes.donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 13:46 HMS Montrose, almost all gears other than the 4.5 inch gun is ripped off. I'm sure her SeaCeptor datalink antenna is ripped off, and CAMM Launch Management Boxed (said to be 4 of them), as well.
Why are you so sure her CAMM equipment has been removed?donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 21:53I guess only the radome remains?tomuk wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 20:58No both the SeaCeptor antennas are still fitted on the bridge and hangar, they are the thimble like domes.donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 13:46 HMS Montrose, almost all gears other than the 4.5 inch gun is ripped off. I'm sure her SeaCeptor datalink antenna is ripped off, and CAMM Launch Management Boxed (said to be 4 of them), as well.
The missiles are just unloaded from the ship and put back in the stockpile. Here is a missile being loaded onto HMS Dragon. Similar procedure for CAMM on T23.
Simply because they were officially planned to be used for T26. Of course, plan can change, so I am "guessing" if the plan has not been changed.tomuk wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 23:47Why are you so sure her CAMM equipment has been removed?donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 21:53I guess only the radome remains?tomuk wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 20:58No both the SeaCeptor antennas are still fitted on the bridge and hangar, they are the thimble like domes.donald_of_tokyo wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024, 13:46 HMS Montrose, almost all gears other than the 4.5 inch gun is ripped off. I'm sure her SeaCeptor datalink antenna is ripped off, and CAMM Launch Management Boxed (said to be 4 of them), as well.
I'm asking, because I had an idea to put them on QE-carriers if they will not just be passed on to future ships?
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