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FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby RetroSicotte » 10 Jul 2019, 08:55

RunningStrong wrote:
RetroSicotte wrote:Apparently the British Army, who own the vehicle, disagree.

The British Army don't own any yet ;)

The men of the British Army I spoke to face to face who drove the vehicle itself in, who've been working as its crew for a few months, make a pretty convincing point that yes, they do know their own vehicle. :roll:

https://defence-blog.com/army/first-two ... -army.html

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby RetroSicotte » 10 Jul 2019, 09:00

Jensy wrote:Folks genuine question here, from someone who appreciates but doesn't really know armoured vehicles.

With all the talk about Challenger 2 updates or potential replacements, why is the Israeli Merkava never proposed? It's obviously a very formidable and modern MBT, with the latest active protection.

We buy a lot of Israeli equipment, why not buy the rights to build a tank that's family design is ironically descended from British origins (the Chieftain deal that was never delivered)?

Jensy

As Jim put, it's mostly because it's specialised for their role. The Merkava is advanced and potent, but designed entirely around Israel's needs, that doesn't always match up to what others need. For example, it weighs 65 tonnes, that's even heavier than the already very heavy Challenger 2.

It's also very VERY expensive as it comes from a single source line from a small country. The Israelis upgrade constantly, so the Merk as you see it in their army is far above the same price as the "baseline" one.

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby Lord Jim » 11 Jul 2019, 03:10

RetroSicotte wrote:The men of the British Army I spoke to face to face who drove the vehicle itself in, who've been working as its crew for a few months, make a pretty convincing point that yes, they do know their own vehicle. https://defence-blog.com/army/first-two ... -army.html


Were those two transporter the type we have leased to move medium and lighter platforms? Having sufficient numbers of such transporters was highlighted by RUSI as vital for the "Strike" Brigade(s) to be able to deploy as planned.

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby RetroSicotte » 11 Jul 2019, 08:22

Couldn't say.

Also reminds me I forgot to get those photos. Someone ping me on PM to post em if I forget again. :D

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby Lord Jim » 13 Jul 2019, 21:15

Here's another new toy from Rheinmetall that would be good for the Challenger 2. Having the Launcher above the gun it seems, is a bit novel.

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby RetroSicotte » 16 Jul 2019, 09:39

It's still mounted to the sides in the video though.

Either way, ROSY has been around for a few years, but it's new on the Challenger .

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Re: FV4034 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank (British Army)

Postby Lord Jim » 16 Jul 2019, 17:31

Ok, spotted that after I posted, and then found other videos showing off the system, mainly on Leo2s.


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