Multi-Role Ocean Surveillance Ship (MROSS)
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What size hanger does it have ?RichardIC wrote:Speculate away.
My speculation is something like:
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@Jake1992, It has a big twin door hanger, but unlike most naval vessels it is under the bridge with the doors opening towards the bow.
@RichardIC, my guess is the same
@RichardIC, my guess is the same
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Iv seen that and it’s interesting but can’t find out what size helos the hanger abd doors can accommodate, Iv found the flight deck can handle a chinook thoughshark bait wrote:@Jake1992, It has a big twin door hanger, but unlike most naval vessels it is under the bridge with the doors opening towards the bow.
@RichardIC, my guess is the same
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Re: Multi-Role Research Vessel
I looked at this design a few years ago and the only measurement for the hanger I was able to find was that it was capable of holding 4 ISO containers.Jake1992 wrote:What size hanger does it have ?
It should hold a Wildcat but it appears a Merlin would be simply too large as currently configured. The double hanger doors may even preclude a Wildcat.
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As far as I can make out from the virtual tour (which has a "measure" facility), it's 15.5m long by 11m wide, with each door being c. 4m wide
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It's quite often the height of the hanger door that makes a design too small for Merlin. Leander for one example.Caribbean wrote:...it's 15.5m long by 11m wide
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Re: Multi-Role Research Vessel
5.5m, as far as I can tellPoiuytrewq wrote:the height of the hanger door
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Re: Multi-Role Research Vessel
It's a no-go for Merlin I'm afraid as currently configured.Caribbean wrote:5.5m, as far as I can tellPoiuytrewq wrote:the height of the hanger door
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Two Wildcat or similar, thoughPoiuytrewq wrote:It's a no-go for Merlin I'm afraid as currently configured.
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I like the RRS SDA and see it being a good starting point for such a vessel ( if we are thinking along the right lines ) but can see the need for a hanger redesign as I can see the RN wanting such a vessel to be able to operate merlin size helos even just to help with loading and unloading of goods let alone growth room for future UAVs
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I suspect that the new vessel will be a mothership for USV, as well as sea bed mapping. Not sure that it would need to be so big for exploring the littoral waters of the UK.
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Not with 20 Martlet eachCaribbean wrote:Two Wildcat or similar, though
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Minimum height for a Merlin is 5.6m. Length 16.5m.Poiuytrewq wrote:It's a no-go for Merlin I'm afraid as currently configured.Caribbean wrote:5.5m, as far as I can tellPoiuytrewq wrote:the height of the hanger door
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Re: Multi-Role Research Vessel
A problem with a hanger with forward facing doors is that wind and turbulence makes life inside the hanger very difficult if the doors are open while the ship is underway. Not a problem for RRS Sir David Attenborough, as she will mostly be using her helicopters while stationary. But more of an issue for a Navy ship.
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I would like to see this vessel of possibly vessels having a more active wartime role such as Command Ship for MCV groups, providing additional capabilities such as aviation and even more elaborate repair facilities for unmanned platforms.
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I’d vote for something like RFA Argus painted red...
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Go to 4:09.
"We also had announced two new ocean surveillance ships to help us with our data gathering but also to help us protect critical national infrastructure and undersea cables."
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No I think they will replace HMS Scott and Protectordonald_of_tokyo wrote:So they will replace HMS Echo and Enterprise?
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In that case, they need to be ice breaker. Something like Canadian Harry DeWolf-class?
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Or a slightly modified version of RRS SD keep commonalitydonald_of_tokyo wrote:In that case, they need to be ice breaker. Something like Canadian Harry DeWolf-class?