I guess that does constitute a failure, although the crew would have got extra training in dealing with a potential flood incident I guess!SKB wrote:So, does the early return of QE mean she failed her last week of FOST? And delay Westlant 19 a bit?
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Agree, nothing wrong in that article.Pseudo wrote:Could you quote the section of the article that refers to the water leak as "catastrophic"? It seems to me that your characterisation of the article says more about your biases than it does the BBC's.bobp wrote:Breaking news major disaster according to the British Biased Corporation
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... e-48933881
It says the QE returned early due to a catastrophic minor water leak and ends reminding its readers that this is not the first major water leak since our Ladyship was launched.
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Perhaps the OP would have preferred it if the article had called it an impromptu bathing opportunity for hard-working sailors.G White wrote:Agree, nothing wrong in that article.Pseudo wrote:Could you quote the section of the article that refers to the water leak as "catastrophic"? It seems to me that your characterisation of the article says more about your biases than it does the BBC's.bobp wrote:Breaking news major disaster according to the British Biased Corporation
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-h ... e-48933881
It says the QE returned early due to a catastrophic minor water leak and ends reminding its readers that this is not the first major water leak since our Ladyship was launched.
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Perhaps I should have said sudden and unexpected failure of water system instead of the word Catastrophic. Whatever it was sufficient to end the QE FOST. As for my opinion of the BBC that's my personal bias, which I am sure is shared by others.
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I've put a new BBC thread in the Politics section for anyone to rant about it, or praise it. Has a poll too.
BBC Thread: https://www.ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=992
BBC Thread: https://www.ukdefenceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=992
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But they did go on to report that 'This issue is also unlikely to prevent the ship from sailing later this year for the Westlant19 deployment when she will carry out further developmental test flying with UK-owned F-35 Jets.'
I guess the following shows the power of high pressure water being released when not expected though... 'The high-pressure burst was apparently enough to buckle a stairwell, bend some bulkheads and split some deck-plates.'
I guess the following shows the power of high pressure water being released when not expected though... 'The high-pressure burst was apparently enough to buckle a stairwell, bend some bulkheads and split some deck-plates.'
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I would say this incident makes the case for a proper QE sized drydock on the south coast more urgent. What if the hull had been breached and Rosyth, Belfast and Toulon were all unavailable, or out of reach?
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Pretty serious then, potentially catastrophic bent bulkheads and stairs, good job the three sailors did not drown.
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Agreed. But hopefully the QE can be repaired alongside.SKB wrote:This makes the case for a proper QE sized drydock on the south coast more urgent, I'd say
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Probably the sacked Captain left his cabin taps running
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Well we know that he got into Hot Water, but this would really just be rubbing salt into the wound.
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Scimitar54 wrote:Well we know that he got into Hot Water, but this would really just be rubbing salt into the wound.
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I guess that’ll depend on the type of failure. If it’s a failure at a joint it might have been a simple assembly issue not picked up (or able to be picked up) prior to failure and therefore once checks have been made in the system any remedial work could be simple enough not to cause a delay.PhillyJ wrote:But they did go on to report that 'This issue is also unlikely to prevent the ship from sailing later this year for the Westlant19 deployment when she will carry out further developmental test flying with UK-owned F-35 Jets.'
I guess the following shows the power of high pressure water being released when not expected though... 'The high-pressure burst was apparently enough to buckle a stairwell, bend some bulkheads and split some deck-plates.'
However if it has been a rupture of the pipe itself this could be a fundamental metallurgical issue in a whole batch of pipes and that might be a whole different story. Similarly with a metallurgical failure of a joint.
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Well I've heard nowt else from my lad but someone has been spouting stuff on Twitter claiming they were there and 3 sailors nearly drowned etcetc. Regardless of authenticity this is not something I believe should be put on public domain to feed the trolls...She might have to fight with HMS Warrior, they want to take her into dry dock to scrape her bottom, so to speak!
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Wildcat aboard QE in Portsmouth on Monday 15th July.
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Went round the harbour yesterday with my lad as he is on leave at the moment and there is a Sea Harrier on HMS QE just beside the ramp! Apparently it's for Family Day which is over this coming weekend, I couldn't get a good shot of it unfortunately.
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Found some photos from last Sunday (14th July). I think I found PhillyJ's Harrier....minus its wings?! An unassembled one, or a replica maybe?PhillyJ wrote:there is a Sea Harrier on HMS QE just beside the ramp!
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Looks so tiny ! Wasn't there a plan where QE was initially going to fly harriers/sea harrriers when she was due to be commissioned in 2014 ? would of got loads onboard ! C'mon autumn, looking forward to seeing some great shots of 617 sq on her decks !!
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It would be interesting to see either Spanish or Italian harriers, if the latter are still around, visit the Queen Elizabeth as she sails to the far east.
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The USMC are still the main user of Harrier and will be for some time to come. I imagine its unlikely though as landing a helicopter on a carrier is one thing as a visitor, fixed wing requires more effort (even if STOVL).Lord Jim wrote:It would be interesting to see either Spanish or Italian harriers, if the latter are still around, visit the Queen Elizabeth as she sails to the far east.
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Shame that the two Spanish Harriers that were at Yeovilton this year didn't drop in
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Think they are due to be displaying at RIAT....
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If push comes to shove, would the QE be ready for some action against Iran? At least with a few F-35B, Merlins and Apaches?
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There are 15 F35Bs at Marham, so assuming you could get 12 deployed in emergency that would be a pretty effective force.abc123 wrote:If push comes to shove, would the QE be ready for some action against Iran? At least with a few F-35B, Merlina and Apaches?
One of the key issues, given Iranian tactics, would be to get her third Phalanx and 4 x 30mm mountings installed (with Martlett?).