River Class (OPV) (RN)

[Caribbean]

It's used to counter attack helicopters, is that something that threatens the OPV's?

It's designed to counter targets manoeuvring at up to 9g and travelling at Mach 4 - not many helicopters in that category! That said, I'm not sure that the tracking/ targetting system is ideal for naval operations. There is a naval variant (Seastreak) out there, but I haven't found much detail on it. A lightweight ground-to-air missile would be a useful addition to the Navy's armoury, both for smaller platforms and to counter the increasing use of drones

[Clive F]

A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?

[Tempest414]

It looks like one or two companies have put some good work into naval mounts for LMM I have seen it said and seen images of LMM and Starstreak HVM on the same mount if this is right its a lot of weapon for the money ( I have seen £7000 a missile ).

[Tempest414]

A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?

I would say not if used in the UK EEZ role but in the low end global patrol role for which they are being lined for the bigger crew is plus

[Tempest414]

I may have missed something but when have we seen B1s in the Black Sea?

Sorry you were right it was not the black sea it was HMS Mersey in the Aegean sea

[donald_of_tokyo]

A quick observation / comment. The B2 rivers are more sophisticated than B1, but have a bigger crew. Is the extra crew worth the extra capacity?

It is 30 in River B1 and 36 in River B2. As it is 20% more, we shall expect 20% more outcome. For EEZ patrol, I agree it does not worth 20%. But for Carrebean tasks, may be worth while.

[Clive F]

Only 36? I thought B2 had a crew of 58 is almost double?

[donald_of_tokyo]

River B1 crew is 30. With rotation crew included, it becomes ~45.

River B2 crew is 36. With rotation crew included, it becomes ~60.

[EDIT] https://www.forces.net/news/exclusive-b ... ewest-ship
... The ship has been designed and built to enable lean manning - just 34 crew can set to sea out of a crew of 60, meaning rotation and time at home...

[Clive F]

Thankyou DS

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[dmereifield]

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/l ... ew-2978890

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[dmereifield]

No 30mm present?

[Repulse]

I can see the 30mm, just 3 sailors standing in front of it.

[dmereifield]

Ah yes, couldn't make it out on the mobile sized screen!

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[Aethulwulf]

Should soon be space for them to start cutting steel on the second T26.

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[Tempest414]

So on the save the RN site on tweeter feed it said HMS Forth was used to shadow a Russian corvette on Sunday anymore news on this or anything to back this up

[SKB]

So on the save the RN site on tweeter feed it said HMS Forth was used to shadow a Russian corvette on Sunday anymore news on this or anything to back this up

How about this?

[Tempest414]

So on the save the RN site on tweeter feed it said HMS Forth was used to shadow a Russian corvette on Sunday anymore news on this or anything to back this up

How about this?

She is looking good in that shot good to see her in use

[Repulse]

SKB, Is it normal for ships to commission at Chatham (referring to HMS Medway)?