Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF)
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Those living there will then complain about the noise from Lakenheath.
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AS do most people who don't live in a City. Where I live there used to be two major Air Force Bases that flew fast jets, yet when the aircraft were withdrawn and the Council wanting to turn one into an airfreight Hub the locals all complained about the noise that would result. Sort term memory nimby complex.
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Same thing happened at RAF Finningley. Probably the busiest RAF base during the late Cold War. Previously it had operated Vulcan's on QRA...which my folks said were spectacular when a squadron scramble was executed...then did pretty much all the RAF's nav and multi engine training, plus the central base for all ASR helicopters. Must have been 100 plus aircraft there in its heyday, all doing multiple flights a day, a lot at very low level (particularly the JP's)Lord Jim wrote:AS do most people who don't live in a City. Where I live there used to be two major Air Force Bases that flew fast jets, yet when the aircraft were withdrawn and the Council wanting to turn one into an airfreight Hub the locals all complained about the noise that would result. Sort term memory nimby complex.
When it closed (which was a tragedy, as it was a vast base, 3rd longest runway in the UK after the 2 at Heathrow, very popular within the RAF as a posting as well..) new people moved into vacated service housing nearby and the villages surrounding it and were later amazed when it was re-opened as an actual airport....
You'd have thought that the fact that it had a huge runway, massive taxi areas, huge hangars, no real local competition and the best transport links of any airport in the UK outside of Heathrow may have possibly given them a clue....
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(Forces TV) 6 May 2019
RAF Lossiemouth has officially welcomed its fourth Quick Reaction Alert Typhoon force. A parade to welcome No. 9 Bomber Squadron into its new role has been held at the base.
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One thing of interest I spotted, it seems the RAF has different Squadron sizes when it come to the Typhoon and F-35B. The former seems to be between ten and twelve aircraft at the squadron at any one time, whereas with the latter is seems there are planned to be only eight to ten.
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Does that make it easier, or not, to get a decent number of airframs on the carriers given the limited number of airames being delivered and available over the next 5 years. 16-20 F35Bs (2 squadrons) seems quite a decent number, plus a few USMCLord Jim wrote:One thing of interest I spotted, it seems the RAF has different Squadron sizes when it come to the Typhoon and F-35B. The former seems to be between ten and twelve aircraft at the squadron at any one time, whereas with the latter is seems there are planned to be only eight to ten.
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Well, it's only normal, considering that with first 48 aircrafts, with 8 aircrafts in one squadron you can ( barely ) have 2 FAA and 2 RAF squadrons, so that one squadron should be permanently assigned to active carrier of the day ( and other in lower state of readyness ), because I doubt that the RAF will be ready to assign it's own squadrons for carriers ( except in major emergencies like Falklands etc. ).Lord Jim wrote:One thing of interest I spotted, it seems the RAF has different Squadron sizes when it come to the Typhoon and F-35B. The former seems to be between ten and twelve aircraft at the squadron at any one time, whereas with the latter is seems there are planned to be only eight to ten.
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Badge is irrelevant. All aircrew and Sqns train to the same standard and same competencies and will deploy the same.
But lets not let facts or reality get in the way of the internet experts.
But lets not let facts or reality get in the way of the internet experts.
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Let's hope so. Really.downsizer wrote:Badge is irrelevant.
But I doubt that long standing RAFs animosity towards any fixed wing naval aviation in the UK will go away so easily just because some Government 20+ years ago decided to make Joint Force Harrier/Lightning etc. After all, let's remember how Harrier ended up.
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Fortune favors brave sir, said Carrot cheerfully.
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
What's her position about heavily armed, well prepared and overmanned armies?
Oh, noone's ever heard of Fortune favoring them, sir.
According to General Tacticus, it's because they favor themselves…
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I doubt we will see Squadrons as such deploy on the Carriers but rather a number of aircraft from the pool along with pilots from numerous Squadrons (when we actually have more than one).dmereifield wrote:Does that make it easier, or not, to get a decent number of airframs on the carriers given the limited number of airames being delivered and available over the next 5 years. 16-20 F35Bs (2 squadrons) seems quite a decent number, plus a few USMC
By the way when is the OCU due to stand up and what badge/shield number does it have?
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Isn't the idea that it will (at first) grow oversized and then whittle down as 8 (or more) a/c will go to any new Sqdrn being stood up?downsizer wrote:It already exists. 207.
- I wonder when the peak will be reached? Once "over the hill " the number of qualified pilots should be sufficient for Ops (where ever that might be brewing)
BTW: noticed the headline "1st combat ops for US F-35s" in A-stan
... so in Syria it was all F-22s flying cover then?
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I am a little confused here. We have 617 at Marham and 17 over in the USA, is 207 also over in the USA co located with the USMC whilst 17 is at the Naval Testing Station?
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I think this graphic is good, I think the OCU (207) is also going to be based at marham with all the other joint force lightenings except for 3 in 17 squadron which will be based in the usa for testing etc, a couple of years old but so far has been pretty much spot on.
https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/timeli ... er-strike/
https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/timeli ... er-strike/
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617 is already at Marhell.
207 is going to Marhell this summer from MCAS Beuafort.
17 is staying at Edwards AFB in California.
207 is going to Marhell this summer from MCAS Beuafort.
17 is staying at Edwards AFB in California.
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https://www.leonardocompany.com/documen ... 8617753102
Leonardo has been contracted by the UK Ministry of Defence to support a series of trials in which the ‘BriteCloud 55’ Expendable Active Decoy (EAD) is being trialled for operations with the Royal Air Force (RAF)’s fleet of Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft. BriteCloud was cleared for service last year on the RAF’s fleet of Tornado GR4 aircraft and Leonardo has delivered a quantity of the countermeasures to the RAF for operations.
The first trial with Typhoon took place in April in the UK. At this trial, 33 BriteCloud rounds were dispensed from aircraft flown by the RAF’s 41 Test and Evaluation Squadron against a range of representative threats.
Leonardo has been contracted by the UK Ministry of Defence to support a series of trials in which the ‘BriteCloud 55’ Expendable Active Decoy (EAD) is being trialled for operations with the Royal Air Force (RAF)’s fleet of Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft. BriteCloud was cleared for service last year on the RAF’s fleet of Tornado GR4 aircraft and Leonardo has delivered a quantity of the countermeasures to the RAF for operations.
The first trial with Typhoon took place in April in the UK. At this trial, 33 BriteCloud rounds were dispensed from aircraft flown by the RAF’s 41 Test and Evaluation Squadron against a range of representative threats.
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Please can we have some of these pods to supplement those we already have.
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“digital stealth”
Is anyone at these shows actually impressed by this kind of bullshit?
Is anyone at these shows actually impressed by this kind of bullshit?
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Sounds similar to how France first advertised Rafale.shark bait wrote:“digital stealth”
Is anyone at these shows actually impressed by this kind of bullshit?
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Shows like these give the French and Russians the chance to show their model building skills.shark bait wrote:Is anyone at these shows actually impressed by this kind of bullshit?
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I dunno, yes it’s hyperbole but I want to see us spend more on upgrading Typhoon along these lines. Like it or not spectra gives rafale a boost, it was the only fighter to fly combat missions over Libya without growler support, ok that was against older Sam systems but it shows a degree of confidence that we and others didn’t have. I’ve also heard good things about gripen’s ew/ecm suite. LO wasn’t baked into typhoon from the start but these sort of upgrades could make it far more relevant for longer.shark bait wrote:“digital stealth”
Is anyone at these shows actually impressed by this kind of bullshit?
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It's a step in the right direction. Typhoon needs lots on upgrades if Eurofighter want more sales. It can't compete on cost with the American jets or Grippen , and it cant compete on features against the F35.
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It’s marketing every company does it we see plenty trotted out from American manufacturing that impress many the under lying point behind the headline is an interesting topic particularly sovereignty in this area.
Cost is a relative term what cost and to who life cycle cost, proper maintenance cost, cost of capability or made up unit prices for headlines?
Low observable is often interpreted as meaning low radar cross section as historically that’s the primary means of detecting an aircraft, but there are in the round 5 areas that require attention in the low observability environment. There is also a cost associated with each and positive and negatives with each.
Cost is a relative term what cost and to who life cycle cost, proper maintenance cost, cost of capability or made up unit prices for headlines?
Low observable is often interpreted as meaning low radar cross section as historically that’s the primary means of detecting an aircraft, but there are in the round 5 areas that require attention in the low observability environment. There is also a cost associated with each and positive and negatives with each.