I wonder did the same ministers consider giving the yard some orders as a last ditch effort?Zero Gravitas wrote:'despite last-ditch efforts by ministers to save the north Devon site.'
Actions speak louder than words...
I wonder did the same ministers consider giving the yard some orders as a last ditch effort?Zero Gravitas wrote:'despite last-ditch efforts by ministers to save the north Devon site.'
I doubt it, if this article is anything to go by :-Poiuytrewq wrote:I wonder did the same ministers consider giving the yard some orders as a last ditch effort?Zero Gravitas wrote:'despite last-ditch efforts by ministers to save the north Devon site.'
Actions speak louder than words...
Reading that article, it looks like Leander for T31, then.jonas wrote:I doubt it, if this article is anything to go by :-Poiuytrewq wrote:I wonder did the same ministers consider giving the yard some orders as a last ditch effort?Zero Gravitas wrote:'despite last-ditch efforts by ministers to save the north Devon site.'
Actions speak louder than words...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... racts-dry/
However, it looks like two "tubs" for AAW missiles forward and possibly an eight cell VLS amidshipsTimmymagic wrote:Cammell Laird's T31e model at Euronaval looks different....RN flag on it, no SSM's, can't see a mission bay or doors and the bow section looks increasingly like Venator...
Same model, slightly different angle, little less glare from the display case. Different layout of amidships VLS for sure. Seems odd that CL and BAE would be exhibiting different models...CL's has an RN ensign as well....Caribbean wrote: However, it looks like two "tubs" for AAW missiles forward and possibly an eight cell VLS amidships
Indeed its just a model, can't for the life of me see the openings on the CL one though. You would have thought they'd have co-ordinated a little...donald_of_tokyo wrote:May be simply using old and new models ?
Timmymagic wrote:...can't for the life of me see the openings on the CL one though...
I think it's just Cammell Lairds old model, it's been around for a while now. Now that the Leander design has matured it must be about time for that model to go in for a refitTimmymagic wrote:Cammell Laird's T31e model at Euronaval looks different....RN flag on it, no SSM's, can't see a mission bay or doors....
Didn't you get the memo - no refits for the T31 - sell it and build a new modelPoiuytrewq wrote:Now that the Leander design has matured it must be about time for that model to go in for a refit
As I have said in the past if we set a Budget of 1.15 billion a year for the next 30 years = 34.5 Billion we could haveLord Jim wrote:For God's sake lets just keep building T-26s, one every eighteen months to two years on a rolling programme, building blocks at different yards and assembling them up in Scotland. Set the programme at say thirty years, possibly front loading he front end so we get the first half dozen by 2030 and then incremental improvements to the design and capability as the programme progresses and forget all the other nonsense.
My viewLord Jim wrote:Re: Type 31 General Purpose Frigate [News Only]
Postby Lord Jim » 24 Oct 2018, 02:48
This whole idea of no refits and sell them on after X number of years and build replacements is probably the stupidest idea I have heard, and makes about as much sense as how the NSS is being implemented. It is just a waste of money to keep one or two ship yards in operation fully subsidised by MoD orders without which they would go under. SO the RN get vessels its doesn't want that cannot do what it need vessels for and then has to sell them after a decade or so and get more of the same.
For God's sake lets just keep building T-26s, one every eighteen months to two years on a rolling programme, building blocks at different yards and assembling them up in Scotland. Set the programme at say thirty years, possibly front loading he front end so we get the first half dozen by 2030 and then incremental improvements to the design and capability as the programme progresses and forget all the other nonsense.
Great photos (although a little in the smoke). I could not stop picking up them here.Timmymagic wrote:Some more images of the BAE Type 31 model at Euronaval with 57mm gun.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... racts-dry/
Reading that article, it looks like Leander for T31, then.
About the article: Shares in Babcock fell 4pc following the publication of the report on Monday, bringing the business’ valuation down to £3.17bn. The research group has not disclosed the identity of any of its employees, and it is not a registered business in the UK.Poiuytrewq wrote:What's with the dazzle camouflage?
Is it to reduce the comparison between Leander and the River Batch 2
called ' block obsolescense' = bad planningPoiuytrewq wrote:The main problem at present is that we have a log jam of programmes all needing financed at the same time
= bad prgrm management (a few well executed projects in the mix won't save the day)Poiuytrewq wrote:also have to consider that the infamous 'black hole'