Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carriers - News and Discussion

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Depends what they're painting, all painting above the waterline can be achieved at the fitting out berth. Remember it got a spruce up already whilst it was there, there was that wee barge with the cherry picker on it. The tops of the islands need painted that's for sure, don't know if the rust spots on the flight deck will be attended to whilst at sea. It's all guesswork at this stage, well apart from the people in the know.

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QE should take a trip to Belfast and have her keel scrubbed there. The DUP would approve too.

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How fast do barnacles attach itself to the hull?

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R686 wrote:How fast do barnacles attach itself to the hull?
What! No copper bottom guarantee? :lol:
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ArmChairCivvy wrote:
R686 wrote:How fast do barnacles attach itself to the hull?
What! No copper bottom guarantee? :lol:
Not if you want to put new bottom plates on in midlife

Copper steel and saltwater don't mix :shock:

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SKB wrote:QE should take a trip to Belfast and have her keel scrubbed there. The DUP would approve too.
If the dock area is still useable last time I saw the dry dock it was full of off shore wind farm parts under construction. The panoramic view of the ship in Harland and Wolfs with Belfast would be fantastic.

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R686 wrote:
ArmChairCivvy wrote:
R686 wrote:How fast do barnacles attach itself to the hull?
What! No copper bottom guarantee? :lol:
Not if you want to put new bottom plates on in midlife

Copper steel and saltwater don't mix :shock:
I would have expected self-polishing paint to have been used below the boot top. There are lots of advantages that ship owners gain from using the stuff.

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Has anybody seen any updates on POW?

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Suddenly the world's largest a/c lifts do not look so big

when a Chinook comes up without the rotors being folded.

The start is also good as to what can fit onto the deck during flight Ops.
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All seems to have gone a bit quiet with QNLZ, no tweets from her, off AIS (I think). Is she still alongside Invergordon or back out at sea? Was she planned to be alongside this long? Has she got a bigger problem with her shafts than was implied?

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Precautionary checks of new carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth
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(BBC News: 10/7/2017)
Checks are to be made of the new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth after debris became caught around one of its propeller shafts.
The ship is being put through sea trials after leaving Rosyth dockyard in Fife where it was built. The item of debris cleared by itself and the propeller shaft was examined by divers.

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But as a precautionary measure, further checks are to be made during the carrier's pre-planned stopover in Invergordon on the Cromarty Firth in the Highlands. A spokesman for the Aircraft Carrier Alliance said: "HMS Queen Elizabeth is making progress through her sea trials programme, which is designed to test the full spectrum of her systems. "The ship is performing well, however, an item of debris was caught around one of the propeller shafts. This was subsequently cleared and an investigation has been undertaken."
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The spokesman added: "The ship is currently in Invergordon for one of her planned stops during the trials programme, to store and re-fuel the ship. As a precautionary measure, we will use this opportunity to complete further thorough checks and ensure sea trials continue safely."
The Cromarty Firth has in the past been used as a stopover for the Royal Navy. In 1907, dozens of warships carrying a total of more than 14,000 sailors anchored in the firth. From 1912 to 1993, it was the location of a Royal Navy base.
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The firth is now used for "parking" oil and gas rigs and other structures while they are not in use or in need of maintenance work carried out by yards at Nigg and Invergordon. Invergordon is also destination for large cruise ships. The Royal Navy's links to the port and firth have been maintained in modern times by visits by the frigate HMS Sutherland.

The arrival of HMS Queen Elizabeth over the weekend has drawn large crowds to the Highlands port. However, various temporary road restrictions were put in place along the shores of the Cromarty Firth on the instructions of Police Scotland for road safety reasons. These had included a 30mph speed limit and no stopping along stretches of the B9163 Cromarty to Culbokie road. Unclassified roads and tracks leading to potential viewpoints to the carrier were also closed.
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Road policing inspector, Neil Lumsden, said: "A number of temporary restrictions on local roads in the Cromarty and Invergordon areas were in place due to a high number of vessel movements in the firth. "The restrictions were put in place to ensure public safety and to limit traffic congestion in the area. There were no issues."
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The Armchair Soldier wrote:

Those low front elevation shots spoil the look of such a majestic ship

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Article in today's Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... elizabeth/

Sorry, only first 1-2 para's viewable online (unless you have a subscription) but full article is in the paper. Could be an interesting film in due course.

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R686 wrote: Those low front elevation shots spoil the look of such a majestic ship
A new take when the special effects (JSF taking off overhead) will be available?
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Shes huge....


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"shes huge " its weird sometimes I see video or pics of her and yes she looks huge then other times she looks not as large when I look at other large carriers (non usa) .its just picture angle I think because we know her size compared to those others etc ,def looks bigger than hms ocean tho ,:-)

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Size perspective !!!


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She's not that big compared to the bigger, longer, heavier cruise ships that carry thousands of passengers that go Invergordon on a regular basis. Invergordon is well used to it by now. :roll:

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I agree ,think to me she looks wide ish but doesn't seem that long .its probably because of 2 islands breaking the effect of her length and the hight of them if you no what I mean

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Height even ,sorry

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QEC Eye in the SKY wrote:Size perspective !!!


Geez you get a good laugh out of the comments section in most posts.

I'm also a litle miffed that the UK sold off the Harriers, could have jumped right in untill transitioning to F35 such a shame and lost opportunity.

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Looks like GCI :shock:

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I think we're too used to the CGI images released over the years.... seeing her at sea or docked somewhere other than Rosyth just looks... fake

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