Timmymagic wrote:But given how many times Sea Skua has actually been used should be instructive. As far as I'm aware no combat use of Penguin,Sea Eagle ever, and no use of Maverick or Exocet from helos in combat.
Old RN wrote:I may be wrong but I suspect that more Sea Skua missiles have been fired in anger than any other anti-ship guided missile in history! And with a very impressive success rate.
But given how many times Sea Skua has actually been used should be instructive. As far as I'm aware no combat use of Penguin,Sea Eagle ever, and no use of Maverick or Exocet from helos in combat.
marktigger wrote:Itaqi's had frelons armed with exocets during the iran/iraq war and tanker war.
yeap you pays your money you get a more capable helicopter and a more capable missile
Given the range of modern missiles like NSM, LRASM you'd be better off (and more survivable) providing the mid course targeting for a shipborne system. Just one LRASM weighs as much as 4 Stingrays...thats going to hurt on range and performance and i wouldn't think you'd want to take off with just 1. Add to that the size of the heli-weapons magazine, lifts etc on a destroyer or frigate and thats why Sea Venom makes sense. Any Sea Eagle or Exocet armed large helicopter is taking off from a airfield or carrier, and in that case why not use an F-35...
marktigger wrote:Merlin is a better ASW platform
marktigger wrote:yes and if we ordered more merlin and replaced wildcat
or are you saying Wildcat along with its crews is a sacrifical aircraft be better of using drones for this type of scenario obviously
marktigger wrote:you saying Wildcat along with its crews is a sacrifical aircraft
Caribbean wrote:Let's keep them focussed on that.
Running a helicopter attack against a surface ship is going to be a dangerous job - why risk one of your premier ASW assets in that role? Far better to use a cheaper, more agile platform and limit your ambitions to FAC, missile boats and corvettes that are, in the main, equipped with MANPAD-based AAW systems. I suspect that Sea Venom's ability to target individual ship systems is going to be used rarely against large targets with capable AD systems
Caribbean wrote:The Sea Venom outranges most MANPAD-based AD systems (such as those used by most of the Russian corvettes in the Baltic) by a factor of two, allowing your helicopter to stay out of the highest-threat zone. You gain nothing by deploying a Merlin with Sea Venom, you would still be restricted to the same target set.
ArmChairCivvy wrote:There is the crux of the matter; of course we know from our own defence companies advertising that even FAC-sized vessels can punch out to 60 km in AD (not initiated by their own sensors, but all this networking is proceeding at speed)
Ron5 wrote:The Royal Navy will formally cease Lynx Mk. 8 operations at the end of March
Ron5 wrote: Sea Venom, is in development and set to begin firing trials this year. It is slated to enter service in 2019-20. The smaller FASGW-Light weapon, the Thales Sea Martlet, will be inducted around the same time.
However, full operational capability with weapons is scheduled to be declared in 2024.
shark bait wrote:"the Royal Navy Wildcats currently lack a data link"
That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while, how is that acceptable? Brand new kit and its only way of transferring data is the same way they did in WW2.
Building any new kit build without a data link is a stupid idea, never mind the off-board system that's is going to be the sole anti shipping weapon for the fleet.
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