sunstersun wrote:When is it going through the mach loop?
Largely OT, but this is why it's so much easier to call it the mach loop (unless you're a local!):
sunstersun wrote:Also, an excerpt from the latest Israeli F-35 front.
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle- ... 018/06/09/
"According to the newspaper’s investigation, the IAF F-35 “Adir” planes penetrated Iran’s airspace, circled high above Tehran, Karajrak, Isfahan, Shiraz and Bandar Abbas – and photographed Iran’s air defense system.
One of the sources reported that Iran’s air defense system, including its Russian radar, did not detect the entry and exit of the fighter planes, and that Ismaili hid this information from the supreme leader to cover his corps’ failure. However, three weeks ago, Iranian intelligence discovered that the Israeli fighter jets had carried out this sortie as a test of the possibility of an undetected military attack on Iranian outposts and bases, during which they photographed those sensitive bases, evading the Russian S-300 missile system’s radar.
According to Al Jarida, Iranian intelligence received top secret information that the Israeli fighter planes even managed to photograph Iran’s underground bases. Khamenei, who received this information, now suspects a cooperation between Russia and Israel, and that the Russians gave Israel the secret code of the Russian radar in Iran – according to the Kuwaiti newspaper."
No punches pulled eh Israel? IOC, then off to scan Iran's air defence systems.
seaspear wrote:certainly the I.A.F has the ability through Elbit to look at ways to carry more fuel without altering stealth profile
whitelancer wrote:Why does this sound more like a disinformation campaign!
How many F35s does Israel have?
R686 wrote:apparently 9+ but not confirmed.The Israelis are sneaky buggers they go out side the norm. I doubt they have come up with conformal fuel tank id say they used expandable tanks snuck a sneaky ride in on commercial routes and then once clear used their own AAR assets. Deception in counter air offensive operations is the name of the game
whitelancer wrote:R686 wrote:apparently 9+ but not confirmed. The Israelis are sneaky buggers they go out side the norm. I doubt they have come up with conformal fuel tank id say they used expandable tanks snuck a sneaky ride in on commercial routes and then once clear used their own AAR assets. Deception in counter air offensive operations is the name of the game
So with 9 or so available they decide to risk one or more swanning about over Iran in order to take a few photos! While I don't doubt they could come up with a way to do so, I do question the purpose. Ask yourself a question if they did do what has been claimed and remained undetected, how come we have heard all about it?
seaspear wrote:Elbit was developing non stealthy 425 gallon feul tanks which with pylons would drop off when approaching areas of hostility , further down the I.A.I developing with Lockeed bolt on stealth conformal tanks
ArmChairCivvy wrote:seaspear wrote:Elbit was developing non stealthy 425 gallon feul tanks which with pylons would drop off when approaching areas of hostility , further down the I.A.I developing with Lockeed bolt on stealth conformal tanks
Thanks, a story that has been running for a decade and will surely yield fruit... at some point
Now, the other one is that Israel will come out with a two-seater version, to be able to act as a command and coordination a/c for unmanned assets:
- hands up, anyone believing that one
- even if you left all weapons behind, to gain weight margin, the inners of an F-35 are rather tightly arranged (they did fit the rather bulky lift fan, though ; the other crew member's ejection seat would have to be modified to "fire" downwards, however )
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