SW1 wrote:According to gov 85m pounds
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... v1_1-O.PDF
SW1 wrote:It’s all there page 51 I’m sure you’ve been able to read it.
Or are you talking project centurion or what.
Lord Jim wrote:The way things seem to be going across the MoD as a whole I think we are going to see at most 24 aircraft having the Block 4 upgrade. Like the Typhoon force we will have a "Gold plated" force of aircraft available for operational use with the remainder of the fleets used for training and other non operational tasks.
Though off topic but in a similar way, with the Army I can see BATUS not receiving any upgraded or new platforms, but rather using existing platform to simulate these, and the training to concentrate on operation tactics. In addition I could see a company Battle Group sized Sim Net being established at a location in the UK to train personnel to use their new and upgraded vehicles to their maximum, similar to what the US Army does but on a smaller scale.
SW1 wrote:A number of thinks in the carrier report specific to f35
1.16 As at April 2020, the Department had spent £6.0 billion on the Lightning II project, out of an approved budget of £10.5 billion.14 The Department has increased the approval limit four times since we reported in 2017, an increase of £1.4 billion (15%). It has a strategy of incremental acquisitions, and the approvals were for capability upgrades, integration of UK weapons and sustainment costs (Figure 4).
In 2013, the Department estimated that the total cost of 48 jets over their whole life – to 2048 – would be £18.425 billion.
1.17 Future costs remain uncertain and could increase because of: the number of jets ordered by partner nations, which may change. The UK’s share of the costs of the international programme is determined by the proportion of the total number of jets it purchases. This can vary if other nations change their order. The recent suspension of Turkey from the programme will increase the UK’s costs by approximately £80 million over the life of the programme, foreign exchange rate fluctuations, as project costs are in US dollars.
The Department has mitigated foreign exchange rate volatility until 2022-23 by using forward purchase contracts with the Bank of England.
However, in January 2020, Air Command found that if the then current exchange rates persisted, costs would be £0.8 billion higher; and additional funding needed to upgrade the fleet with the new software, weapons and training. The Department has already increased programme costs to include some upgrades and integrate weapons. But there have been delays in making funding provisions which mean the jets will have the full suite of weapons later than originally planned.
The Department’s decision to buy 138 jets will enable it to support a continuous Carrier Strike capability to the 2060s. However, it has not yet decided whether to purchase more than its current commitment of 48 jets.
Air Command is assessing its future force mix – including the number and type of Lightning II jets it needs – as part of its Combat Air Strategy. The Department will then consider options as part of the Integrated Review of Security, Defence, Development and Foreign Policy.
Purchasing more jets will create additional financial pressures over the next 10 years as the Department has only set aside funding to 2025-26 to buy 48.
SW1 wrote:Air Command is assessing its future force mix
ArmChairCivvy wrote:SW1 wrote:Air Command is assessing its future force mix
This has been coming since at least 2017 (Tempest had been set in train 1.5 yrs bfr the great fanfare for it was arranged during the UK airshow - no opportunity available every year)
- buy the ozzie wingman so we get 48+48
- though it will not help much with giving the carriers their weapon system... so that they are not just expensive toys for showing off
SW1 wrote:I wouldn’t be buying the Aussie wingman
Caribbean wrote: it sounds as if we might be looking to do a similar deal to the one we did with them over the T26, which would indicate that we would plan to build the airframes locally
Caribbean wrote:SW1 wrote:I wouldn’t be buying the Aussie wingman
If they recently transferred design data to the UK, it sounds as if we might be looking to do a similar deal to the one we did with them over the T26, which would indicate that we would plan to build the airframes locally, but with UK payloads (and possibly engines etc)
serge750 wrote:Not sure if they would mothball a carrier yet, maybe after the 2021 CSG deployment for QE, they will want to work up POW to full capacity aswell, so maybe after 2022 they will extend the rediness date for the second carrier?
seaspear wrote:modifications outlined by Lockheed for SEAD roles
seaspear wrote:Would the modifications outlined by Lockheed for SEAD roles for the f35 be included for the f35b
https://www.airforcemag.com/lockheed-to ... nses-role/
certainly, the timeline in batch 14 could be useful
ArmChairCivvy wrote:The ARRGM" is also in the Italian inventory so they must be "absolutely delighted" about these developments.
seaspear wrote:Its likely the batch including the s.e.a.d will be sourced by the R.A.A.F as a replacement for the Growler
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